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Re: Alien & UFOs thread...

Postby plwk » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:58 pm

Where did Buddha come from ?
It wasn't Earth.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tushita
Ah yes, nice but falsifiable? Lumbini seems quite earthly though....
Should we be building spacecraft instead of meditating?
Ahem...re-Dhammakaya?
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Re: Alien & UFOs thread...

Postby dharmagoat » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:40 pm

plwk wrote:
Should we be building spacecraft instead of meditating?

Ahem...re-Dhammakaya?

I think they need a bigger one.
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Re: Alien & UFOs thread...

Postby Aemilius » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:12 am

PadmaVonSamba wrote:Cooper was a conspiracy-obsessed individual.
Conspiracy theories, lacking verifiable evidence, draw more and more external 'causes' into an ever-growing web of paranoia.
When skeptics demand hard evidence for extraordinary claims,
conspiracy-obsessed people often see those skeptics as part of the conspiracy.
it's a never-ending loop.

There is much more credible evidence, photos, videos, and so forth, of crack-pots than there are of visitors from space.

But even if there are visitors from space,
okay, so what does that have to do with Buddhism?


That is disappointing.
Do You nevertheless admit there are secrets in the modern society?

As to an intelligent person there most certainly are secrets and secret projects, how could you ever avoid this circle of accusations of "conspiracy theories"? These kind of things, like the cheap accusation of ascribing to "conspiracy theories", are caused by the primary cause of secrets and secret projects.

What has it got to do with buddhism? Good question. But Buddhism doesn't mean that you must be a simpleton, or an idiot, who believes everything that he is told by the government, by the news agencies and other such agencies.
Bill Cooper says in his lecture that social scientists had come to the conclusion that the knowledge of extraterrestial entities would result in a collapse of western religion, and even in a collapse of the whole modern society.

Buddhism is a religion that accepts there is life elsewhere in the universe. Buddhism speaks of the trisahasra-mahasahasra-lokadhatu, the world system of thousand million worlds.
Seems that it has something to do with buddhism, in this and in other ways. Realizing Dharma is seeing reality as it is. The existence of extra terrestial entities, or extra terrestial life, is an aspect of reality as it is.
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Re: Alien & UFOs thread...

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:52 pm

Aemilius wrote:
Do You nevertheless admit there are secrets in the modern society?


Your logic:
A.There are things the government hides from people.
B.There are many things we wonder about ETs that we do not have answers to
C. Therefore, the government is hiding the answers.
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Re: Alien & UFOs thread...

Postby porpoise » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:14 pm

I am regularly abducted by aliens but I can't remember it because they wipe my memory each time. I know it's happening because I wake up sore from all the probing... :jumping:
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Re: Alien & UFOs thread...

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:21 am

Well, I guess I was wrong. But I never thought UFOs would be that small.
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Re: Alien & UFOs thread...

Postby Aemilius » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:05 am

PadmaVonSamba wrote:
Aemilius wrote:
Do You nevertheless admit there are secrets in the modern society?


Your logic:
A.There are things the government hides from people.
B.There are many things we wonder about ETs that we do not have answers to
C. Therefore, the government is hiding the answers.


It doesn't start like that, a more correct logic would be:

A. Our knowlwdge is dependent on sense perception.
B. Our knowledege is also dependent on other people's sense perception
C. Therefore, there is always an element of trust in our knowledge.

D. Trust is created by behaviour, and by many other things, like: titles, appeareance, manner of speech, clothing, etc.... How trust is generated is discussed in sociology and certain other sciences.

E. We can take a case example of William "Bill" Cooper. Let's say that for certain reasons we believe that what he says is the actual truth.
F. The information that was revealed by William Cooper implies that there are things that are kept hidden.
G. If there are hidden and secret things in our society, it means that they are covered behind a facade.
H. This facade consist of untruths.

I. For these reasons it seems pretty clear that the society has several levels:
1. There are the masses who believe what the facade says.
2. There are people whose job is to build up this facade.
3. There is some kind of elite, a restricted class of persons, who know what the actual truth is.
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Re: Alien & UFOs thread...

Postby Aemilius » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:13 am

If anyone thinks that "there are no secrets", please see The Groom Lake Desert Rat, it is an excellent source material:
http://www.ufomind.com/area51/desert_rat/
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