smcj wrote:He wasn't pre-buddhist, as I'd already been a Buddhist for a long time before I discovered him, but Bill Wilson was influential to me nonetheless. Besides the simplicity and elegance of his approach, seeing that a bunch of really screwed up unsophisticated people (sober 12 step drunks and addicts) could actually make progress on the spiritual path gave me the courage to try Dharma more seriously. Up until then I thought it would be too hard and I was afraid of failure.
My old teacher credited Bach and Shakespeare as his pre-buddhist influences. He was studying the B-Minor Mass and came to the conclusion the Bach was "praying". So he got into religion as an activity--prayer--as opposed to a philosophy or belief. He said Shakespeare was on the cusp of Dharma, that insight into life beyond that level required Dharma.
Very interesting. Bach and Mozart are two that give me a similar feeling that they were spiritual in an esoteric sort of way. Bach was deeply religious there is some evidence that he may have been Rosicrucian, but Mozart was definitely a Freemason. Speaking of Freemasons, there is good evidence, imo, that Shakespeare was actually Francis Bacon, a modern day something-or-other if there ever was one. A Rosicrucian who was really up to something, apparently trying to advance humanity, I guess. There was a great 2 hour documentary on Youtube about Bacon, but it seems to be removed now. If you saw what this guy was up to and all the evidence presented, I don't think you'd have any trouble believing he was Shakespeare. I've speculated about it ever since I got Manly P. Hall's "The Secret Teachings of All Ages" where he has a chapter dedicated to this idea, but seeing the documentary really convinced me.
Mozart the Mason CD:http://www.amazon.com/Matt-Haimovitz-Mo ... B000CC4W4Q
Mozart, Mazonic Influence On His Music (book):http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Freemason- ... 1594771286
PS, I remember some time ago on these forums there was a guy who made a bold statement about Rosicrucians being evil and a plot to enslave the world or something. I don't know how he got this idea or what his proof is, but I really don't think so. Unless he was a high-ranking Rosicrucian or something at one point and privy to the secret plans.
"Use what seems like poison as medicine. We can use our personal suffering as the path to compassion for all beings." Pema Chodron