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When they can no longer keep a lid on it, it must have been "aliens".Lhug-Pa wrote:Egyptian-Rite Mason Upasika H.P. Blavatsky wrote:...the difficulty of the archaeologists still exists, if not in the fact of idols being ascribed to early Buddhists, then in the physiognomies, in the type of all these Enkay-Tenkay Buddhas.
They all, from the tiniest to the hugest, are Negroes, with flat noses, thick lips, forty-five degrees of the facial angle, and curly hair!
There is not the slightest likeness between these negro faces and any of the Siamese or Tibetan Buddhas, which all have purely Mongolian features and perfectly straight hair.
This unexpected African type, unheard of in India, upsets the antiquarians entirely. This is why the archaeologists avoid mentioning these caves.
I don't want to be rude but since you asked ...montana wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHeel1GNFFY
enjoy.
I really would like to hear your thoughts about the stupa/space craft.
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I have noticed the Euro centric approach when I was in HS and university. Unless you take specialized courses you will hear only about Europeans in depth. There's a large body of literature dedicated to the deliberate downplaying of non-Christian history as a method to keep Americans unaware of the "outside world". Can you imagine if Americans realized that the countries the US goes to war with have real PEOPLE living in them?Lhug-Pa wrote:The E.T. relationship is a possibility, as I'm very open-minded about Extraterrestrials.
The problem is when it becomes a type of racism, i.e. as if non-Caucasians couldn't have possibly built that by themselves, so it must have been with help from outer space.
Unfortunately there are a number of Euro-centric and Ashkenazi-centric people in academia who always jump at the chance to try to discredit the achievements of melanated or darker-skinned people.
Speaking of which, some claim that the first Buddhist statues were Gandharan, which are said to have first appeared in the first or second century C.E.
However according to the above History Channel episode, the Ajanta Caves began to be carved around the second century B.C.E.
So it makes me also wonder if the "Enkay-Tenkay" Buddha carvings apparently found near Chandvad India are older than the Gandharan statues:
When they can no longer keep a lid on it, it must have been "aliens".Lhug-Pa wrote:Egyptian-Rite Mason Upasika H.P. Blavatsky wrote:...the difficulty of the archaeologists still exists, if not in the fact of idols being ascribed to early Buddhists, then in the physiognomies, in the type of all these Enkay-Tenkay Buddhas.
They all, from the tiniest to the hugest, are Negroes, with flat noses, thick lips, forty-five degrees of the facial angle, and curly hair!
There is not the slightest likeness between these negro faces and any of the Siamese or Tibetan Buddhas, which all have purely Mongolian features and perfectly straight hair.
This unexpected African type, unheard of in India, upsets the antiquarians entirely. This is why the archaeologists avoid mentioning these caves.
Anyhow, I do think that some of the 'new age-ish' speculations on the Extraterrestrial-Tibetan connection could also be a possibility. Not because I would think that Tibetans aren't capable themselves of being very cultured without outside help; quite the opposite, as some Tibetans are perhaps one of the few people in modern times evolved enough to have regular contact with Extraterrestrials (of course I also think that there could very well be a handful of people from all races currently evolved enough to have contact with Extraterrestrials; yes, perhaps even some Caucasian Ashkenazis & Europeans)....
I can agree with that - about 95% anyway. The view of the US from outside it is vastly different from the view of the US from inside it, and if that was true about a person, you would have to worry about their sanity.montana wrote:I have noticed the Euro centric approach when I was in HS and university. Unless you take specialized courses you will hear only about Europeans in depth. There's a large body of literature dedicated to the deliberate downplaying of non-Christian history as a method to keep Americans unaware of the "outside world". Can you imagine if Americans realized that the countries the US goes to war with have real PEOPLE living in them?
I personally believe that there are beings living on other planets. It makes perfect sense to me. But when I see things like Dubais Burj Khalifa tower I have no reason to doubt human capacity and ingenuity. Why are the specific cave dwellings made by aliens whereas the dwellings and churches of Petra in Jordan are made by humans? The troglodyte city of Cappadocia? Kandovan in Iran? etc...padma norbu wrote:I think its funny that buddhists have texts that discuss alien worlds and supernatural events fairly regularly but when it comes to the idea of aliens or otherworldly beings somehow having anything to do with seemingly impossible ancient architecture, the default mode for faithful buddhists is "that's a lot of nonsense. People built that. LOL."
Did you at least watched the "documentary"? It is filled with grotesque hypothesis, some even saying that one statue of the Buddha showing some mudras is in fact not showing mudras but showing how to handle the command controls of a spacecraft... I mean, you don't even need to have a brain to realize that Tsoukalos and Childress have gigantic issues and should be medicated (for their own sake).padma norbu wrote:I think its funny that buddhists have texts that discuss alien worlds and supernatural events fairly regularly but when it comes to the idea of aliens or otherworldly beings somehow having anything to do with seemingly impossible ancient architecture, the default mode for faithful buddhists is "that's a lot of nonsense. People built that. LOL."
Sherab Dorje wrote: Aliens? No. Slaves? Yes!
That video rocks!!!My statement was a general statement about the general topic raised, not this doc specifically or the Ajanta Caves, specifically. I just find it funny how unwilling to believe in aliens or supernatural type things actually happening in our world supposed believers really are.mutsuk wrote:Did you at least watched the "documentary"? It is filled with grotesque hypothesis, some even saying that one statue of the Buddha showing some mudras is in fact not showing mudras but showing how to handle the command controls of a spacecraft... I mean, you don't even need to have a brain to realize that Tsoukalos and Childress have gigantic issues and should be medicated (for their own sake).padma norbu wrote:I think its funny that buddhists have texts that discuss alien worlds and supernatural events fairly regularly but when it comes to the idea of aliens or otherworldly beings somehow having anything to do with seemingly impossible ancient architecture, the default mode for faithful buddhists is "that's a lot of nonsense. People built that. LOL."
Yes, it does. There is a lot that the creators of the show intentionally get wrong and it is not too difficult to debunk. Makes you wonder why they go to such great pains to fudge the data, even twisting the words of their regular crazy-haired guests.
