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Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby Nilasarasvati » Fri May 31, 2013 4:29 pm

Tonight at 7:30 PM EST, Dzongsar Jamyang Khyenste Rinpoche will begin a two-day teaching on Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche's foreward to Rain of Wisdom a book of Songs of Realization of the Kagyu Gurus.

The teachings will be streamed for the benefit of the pretas in then nosebleed section like myself.

I thought I'd start this thread wherein we can discuss and comment and question.

http://www.siddharthasintent.org/rain-o ... tream.html
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri May 31, 2013 5:22 pm

Note that, in the higher tantras, there is talk of a self and an I, even though in the lower teachings the absence of self and the absence of I is what is always proclaimed. - Tony Duff
If we have to have a soul, it might as well be vidya, it is after all, permanent, unconditioned, a knower, stainless, and free from the three realms. But If we don't have to have one, vidya still has these characteristics. It is our essenceless essence. - a certain Gemini
To educate the educated is notoriously difficult. - Jacques Barzun
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby MalaBeads » Fri May 31, 2013 5:26 pm

As a preparation, I find it is helpful to read the introduction to Rain Of Wisdom. It has been posted on the Chronicle Project website. Also good to listen to Robin Korman on the same subject and finally to hear David Rome read three of Trungpa Rinpoche's poems.

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Postby Nilasarasvati » Fri May 31, 2013 5:33 pm

Thank you oh my Kannadian friend for the correction.

Also, yes! Read the foreward. I should have included the link to the PDF:

http://www.siddharthasintent.org/files/ ... rungpa.pdf

Also, David Rome reading the Vidyadhara's poetry (is this what you had in mind, Malabeads?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_2186qGvI4
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Postby dzogchungpa » Fri May 31, 2013 5:55 pm

If you are referring to me, I am very happy to have been of service to the blue Devi, but I am not Kannadian or even Karnatakan, but Kalifornian.
Note that, in the higher tantras, there is talk of a self and an I, even though in the lower teachings the absence of self and the absence of I is what is always proclaimed. - Tony Duff
If we have to have a soul, it might as well be vidya, it is after all, permanent, unconditioned, a knower, stainless, and free from the three realms. But If we don't have to have one, vidya still has these characteristics. It is our essenceless essence. - a certain Gemini
To educate the educated is notoriously difficult. - Jacques Barzun
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby Nilasarasvati » Fri May 31, 2013 7:49 pm

Aw well I was looking for any excuse to use Walt Whitman's spelling.
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Postby Nilasarasvati » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:36 am

<3 this is so necessary for me :P
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby dzogchungpa » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:41 am

Well, that was quite interesting. I really laughed when he was talking about the cigar.
Note that, in the higher tantras, there is talk of a self and an I, even though in the lower teachings the absence of self and the absence of I is what is always proclaimed. - Tony Duff
If we have to have a soul, it might as well be vidya, it is after all, permanent, unconditioned, a knower, stainless, and free from the three realms. But If we don't have to have one, vidya still has these characteristics. It is our essenceless essence. - a certain Gemini
To educate the educated is notoriously difficult. - Jacques Barzun
སརྦ་དྷརྨ་དྷཱ་ཏུ་ཨཱཏྨ་ཀོ་྅ཧཾ༔
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby Nilasarasvati » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:13 am

I really laughed a lot in general. I'm home with my family and they probably thought I was going insane.
Some points that were amazing for me:

1. Talking about how Trungpas description of "nevertheless, in spite of their encouragement (his Gurus), I have been left out in the cold as full-time garbageman, janitor, diaper service, and babysitter." and how this should be aspiration for the young Tulkus.

2. The whole ice to water metaphor. Problem/solution obstacle/path nondualism. It makes me realize, I have no idea what the path really is all about. How it works. What I'm supposed to do. At all.

3. Anything regarding Tilopa. I laughed so hard when he was talking about this out of pure glee; this is why I can't understand people who are scandalized by Trungpa Rinpoche's behaviors--look at the founding figures of the lineage! They were by all worldly standards, disgusting, insane, unfathomably weird, freakish, untouchable!

Anyway. Amazing. Will be watching early in the AM for certain. Sadhu for all those 800-900 people who were with us, and all those who had the incredible merit to be in that auditorium.
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Postby dzogchungpa » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:19 am

He really seemed to enjoy saying 'pimp', although I think the word he was actually looking for was either 'panderer' or 'procurer'.
Note that, in the higher tantras, there is talk of a self and an I, even though in the lower teachings the absence of self and the absence of I is what is always proclaimed. - Tony Duff
If we have to have a soul, it might as well be vidya, it is after all, permanent, unconditioned, a knower, stainless, and free from the three realms. But If we don't have to have one, vidya still has these characteristics. It is our essenceless essence. - a certain Gemini
To educate the educated is notoriously difficult. - Jacques Barzun
སརྦ་དྷརྨ་དྷཱ་ཏུ་ཨཱཏྨ་ཀོ་྅ཧཾ༔
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby MalaBeads » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:32 am

I always enjoy listening to him but was only able to listen in for few minutes today as my own teacher was teaching at the same time (what is it that we say in English - "when it rains it pours")? It was like that today.

Will be listening for sure tomorrow though. Wonder if they will post the replay?
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Postby Nilasarasvati » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:58 am

Malabeads, Siddhartha's intent has stated they will post the teachings on their site as soon as they are over, much to my great happiness.

Yes, when it rains it pours indeed! Haha. You must have been sweatin like a fat kid at a cupcake convention.
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby MalaBeads » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:31 am

Nilasarasvati wrote:You must have been sweatin like a fat kid at a cupcake convention.


LOL!

I have no idea what that means but it made me laugh out loud so you must be onto to something!

Good to hear SI will post the talks on its website.

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Postby Nilasarasvati » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:42 am

I'm onto the universal truth of cupcakes.
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby MalaBeads » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:56 am

Nilasarasvati wrote:I'm onto the universal truth of cupcakes.


May I be reborn as a cupcake then!

Cause I've already spent this life as the fat kid!
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Postby Nilasarasvati » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:58 am

IN times of fatkid famine,
may I be reborn as countless cupcakes
the frosting, the very sprinkles themselves.
Until all diabeetus is utterly inevitable.
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby MalaBeads » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:33 am

Nila,

Do you (or anyone) know what Doha he read at the beginning - the one he wanted to read in 'the original language'?
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Postby Nilasarasvati » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:56 am

Not offhand at all.
If I had to take a guess it was one of Gampopas because to my ear he said "Dagpo" but I'm not Kagyu nor familiar with the lineage masters nor this book at ALL so please ask a Kagyupa!
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby Punya » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:31 am

Nilasarasvati wrote:The whole ice to water metaphor.


This is something I want to listen to again because I haven't heard him say this before. What was your take on what he meant?
Unless the inner forces of negative emotions are conquered
Strife with outer enemies will never end.
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Re: Dzongsar Khyentse in Nova Scotia

Postby Punya » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:35 am

Nilasarasvati wrote:Malabeads, Siddhartha's intent has stated they will post the teachings on their site as soon as they are over, much to my great happiness.


Hopefully it will be the same as for the Hong Kong teachings: a free podcast.
Unless the inner forces of negative emotions are conquered
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