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For example, certain externalist deities urge vegetarianism and Buddha Recitation, but teach that the sacred words should be visualized as circulating throughout the body -- this, they say, is "turning the Dharma wheel," to release blockages in the energy system. This is the preaching of externalist demons
a. What kind of 'meditation' does he do? Did he specify on that? I have met those who think that by the strength of one's own dhyana practice, total self power, that they can take rebirth in any pure land without making a necessary connection first with the host Buddha like the samsaric heavens.
Securing the faith and wishing rebirth is already the part of making connection. Oral recitation is just the most dominant and popular form but not the only way. I have no problems understanding that such people who practice dhyana but as you said, having that practice combined with the faith in Amitabha & resolution for Sukhavati, they too can take birth there, that's what those who belong to the combination of Ch'an and Pure Land do. But of course, it's uncommon for those who adopt Ch'an & Pure Land not to include oral recitation. Those who are in Jodo Shinshu (with a unique definition of nembutsu and practice) as another example comes to mind.Suppose that someone who practices meditation without recitation of Amitabha, but he has secured his faith in Amitabha and always wishes to take rebirth there. What do you make of that?
Nosta wrote:Sometimes I do that. I am doing meditation, without recitation, but I am thinking of Amitabha, trying to feel aware of him.
not1not2 wrote:Nosta wrote:Sometimes I do that. I am doing meditation, without recitation, but I am thinking of Amitabha, trying to feel aware of him.
That is essentially what I do as I find consciously formulating words to be too "effortful" and a bit mentally agitating. Earl
LastLegend wrote:I met a guy when I was in Vietnam. I asked him if he follows Pure Land. He said "yes." I asked him if he recites Amitabha. He said, "no." He said he practices meditation. I asked how can that be Pure Land? He said, he is ready to leave his body any time and take rebirth in Pure Land.
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