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Postby tucker1 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:15 pm

What is the criteria for crazy, insane, or delusional..?

When Buddhists speak of "delusional mind" what specifically do they mean? thanks.
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Re: Question

Postby steveb1 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:06 am

tucker1 wrote:What is the criteria for crazy, insane, or delusional..?

When Buddhists speak of "delusional mind" what specifically do they mean? thanks.


I gather that it is:

believing in one's ego as a stable, permanent "soul";

being in a "febrile" state of ego-defense;

denying compassion to others while "looking out for Number One";

"living in one's ego" - "ego" being defined as "the anxious, grasping self".

By these criteria, the mass of humanity is delusional or crazed. The BuddhaDharma offers a way out of egoic insanity into the "coolness" of Nirvana.
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Re: Question

Postby tucker1 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:46 am

Is Nirvana a state of mind? ...
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Re: Question

Postby lobster » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:13 pm

tucker1 wrote:Is Nirvana a state of mind? ...


It is our 'natural state of being' when the craziness is no longer present.
So in a sense it is always there being 'sane' or giving us access to 'normality'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Path_to_Nirvana

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Re: Question

Postby Jikan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:46 pm

tucker1 wrote:When Buddhists speak of "delusional mind" what specifically do they mean? thanks.


Hatred & aggressiveness, ignorance & closed-mindedness, greed & lustfulness, envy, pride & arrogance...
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Re: Question

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:53 pm

tucker1 wrote:What is the criteria for crazy, insane, or delusional..?

When Buddhists speak of "delusional mind" what specifically do they mean? thanks.


constant restless dissatisfaction. It is what is noticed when one begins to rest the mind. Endless craving for more.
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Re: Question

Postby tucker1 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:12 pm

So ... "Right Mind" is solid like reality and common sense as compared to crazy,bizarre or delusional.
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Re: Question

Postby Ramon1920 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:58 pm

Delusion here is what you call it when someone has a view that doesn't fit reality. It's a stronger term than mistaken, used particularly when people have to ignore things in order to keep their view.

So an example of a delusion would be thinking you're an emperor of the United States and you ignore that no one follows your orders in order to keep your view of being emperor.
Some Buddhist examples of delusion that are common are:
Denying you're suffering when you are suffering to say you're a Buddha,
denying your faults to say you're faultless,
denying that things like death bother you to say you're equanimous,
denying karma so you can say your actions will bear no harm
denying the Buddha's authority in Buddhist matters so you can say you're the authority
and of course the big delusion that things exist independent of other things and have an essential themness to them. But that delusion is like a fine tumor growing in the heart, you have to surgically remove it with great precision or kill your spiritual life.
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