DiamondSutra wrote:Solo.. more questions....
What about the three jewels in Nichiren Buddhism?
Is there a refuge ceremony? A refuge verse?
rory wrote: Ch 2 contains the essence of ichinen-sanzen 3 thousand thoughts in one thought moment and Chapter 16 is about the Eternal Buddha. These are the basis of Tiantai philosophy and that of Nichiren Shonin.
Queequeg wrote:Not all Nichiren Buddhists take refuge in the Three Jewels - and there does seem to be doctrinal basis for this. In the broadest sense, it seems to be founded in the teachings on Perfect and Immediate Awakening taught in the Lotus Sutra as explained by Zhiyi (Tientai/Tendai). It seems to be the same basis on which Saicho (Dengyo) established the precepts platform at Mt. Hiei.
In short, in chanting the Daimoku, one is literally "taking refuge" in the True Aspect of Reality. As the Lotus Sutra reads (paraphrasing), "Enter the room of the Tathagata, wear the robes of the Tathagata, and take the Seat of the Tathagata." One is not an outsider looking in on AnnuttaraSamyakSambodhi needing guidance on the way, but rather one immediately enters into the awakening upon "hearing the name" and the difference between the beginner and the Buddha is a matter of depth of awakening only. We are, as is, without changing anything about us from time immemorial, manifestation of the Sublime Dharma, even in our ignorance (which irreducibly appears mutually along with the Buddha's awakening).Taking refuge in the Buddha, Dharma and Sangha, even the boundless, timeless aspects of the Three Jewels, is viewed to be derivative of the Daimoku, even distracting from the goal of the practice of the Buddha taught in the Lotus Sutra. In the Kitayama lineage (of Nichiren Shu), instead of refuge in the Three Jewels, one expresses devotion (Namu) to the Three Great Secret Laws - the Gohonzon, the Sanctuary, and the Daimoku. In terms of awakening, the Three Great Secret Laws are all that is required for full blown awakening, and even these three are actually trifurcation of the One Vehicle, NamuMyohoRengeKyo.
This probably sounds totally foreign to most Buddhists. I don't know if this explains anything, but the Perfect Teaching is sort of Quantum Dharma (as opposed to Newtonian Dharma of the Pre Lotus teachings) and without understanding how it stands in contrast to pre Lotus teachings, its difficult to reconcile (but then, if you know the Lotus Sutra, you know that its explanation of Expedient Means is the means of reconciling all the various Buddhist teachings). Linear logic, or even dualistic logic is abandoned in favor of the complete integration of relative and absolute into a mutually inclusive Buddha Nature.
Anyway, the practice of not reciting the refuges in at least some Nichiren traditions is not the utter rejection of Pre Lotus Buddhism that some people think it is. Much more nuanced that that - right in line with Nichiren's nuanced criticism of non Lotus Sutra Buddhism.
illarraza wrote:There is no doctrinal basis for a Nichiren Buddhist failing to take refuge in the Three Treasures of Nichiren Lotus Sutra Buddhism: The Law of Namu Myoho renge kyo; Shakyamuni Buddha of the Juryo Chapter of the Lotus Sutra; and the Sangha led by Nichiren Daishonin. In Nichiren's writings there are nearly fifty references to the "Three Treasures". He considered them to be one of the Four Debts of Gratitude [the other three are the debt we owe to our parents, to all living beings or specifically to our teacher, and to one's sovereign or country]. Taking refuge in the Three Treasures is necessary but insufficient, according to Nichiren.
illarraza wrote:[the other three are the debt we owe to our parents, to all living beings or specifically to our teacher, and to one's sovereign or country].
to all living beings or specifically to our teacher
illarraza wrote:Concerning taking refuge in the Three Treasures, Nichiren writes [quoting the Nirvana Sutra]:
“If there are those who possess differing ideas concerning the three treasures, then truly you should know that these people can no longer hope to take refuge in, or rely upon, the three pure treasures. They will never gain benefit from any of the precepts, and in the end, they will fail to obtain the fruits of the voice-hearer, the cause-awakened one, or the bodhisattva.”
It is clear Nichiren is referring to the benefit gained from taking refuge in the Three Treasures of True Buddhism: The Law of Namu Myoho renge kyo; Shakyamuni Buddha of the Juryo Chapter of the Lotus Sutra; and the Sangha lead by Jogyo.
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