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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:00 am 
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Anyone can tell me about Honmon Hokke Shu? The school was said to be the only traditional Nichiren school to officially protest World War II (with SGI being a notable post-Meiji school that protested).


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:46 pm 
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Have a more specific question?

Here is their main website: http://www.honmon-butsuryushu.or.jp/english/hbs.html


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:00 am 
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thank you very much.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:38 am 
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ylee111 wrote:
thank you very much.


Hi. More correctly, the Soka Gakkai protested the adoption of state Shinto and not the war [despite their assertions based on their rewrite of history].

Article by Guna:

In 1941, Soka Kyoiku Gakkai issued their first monthly periodical, Kachi Sozo.
The Japanese nation, unable to extricate herself from the prolonged
Sino-Japanese conflict, was on the verge of entering another new war against the
joint forces of the USA & England. It was a period of mounting tension, for in
December of that same year, the Pacific War was to begin. The prewar Japanese
society under the militaristic government brought unwanted pressure upon the
lives of the Japanese people all the more. A thought-control policy was rigidly
imposed; even religions and ideologies were increasingly subjected to strict
control. The philosophical thoughts of Soka Kyoiku Gakkai were of no exception;
they, too, were rapidly turning into those of extremely militaristic outlook,
reflecting the social background of this age......

.....These wartime remarks by the members of Soka Kyoiku Gakkai are a far cry from
their "anti-war' and "peace-loving" stance the Gakkai so vehemently claim they
are and have always been in the past." -- Guna

Comment:

Only after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki did Toda become a pacifist.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:41 am 
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This is the new US Honmon Butsuryu Shu website: http://www.beikokuhbs.com/ they have a new priest and temple and also have ordained a euro-american priest to help spread the Dharma.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:21 am 
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illarraza wrote:
ylee111 wrote:
thank you very much.


Hi. More correctly, the Soka Gakkai protested the adoption of state Shinto and not the war [despite their assertions based on their rewrite of history].

Article by Guna:

In 1941, Soka Kyoiku Gakkai issued their first monthly periodical, Kachi Sozo.
The Japanese nation, unable to extricate herself from the prolonged
Sino-Japanese conflict, was on the verge of entering another new war against the
joint forces of the USA & England. It was a period of mounting tension, for in
December of that same year, the Pacific War was to begin. The prewar Japanese
society under the militaristic government brought unwanted pressure upon the
lives of the Japanese people all the more. A thought-control policy was rigidly
imposed; even religions and ideologies were increasingly subjected to strict
control. The philosophical thoughts of Soka Kyoiku Gakkai were of no exception;
they, too, were rapidly turning into those of extremely militaristic outlook,
reflecting the social background of this age......

.......These wartime remarks by the members of Soka Kyoiku Gakkai are a far cry from
their "anti-war' and "peace-loving" stance the Gakkai so vehemently claim they
are and have always been in the past." -- Guna

Comment:

Only after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki did Toda become a pacifist.


In light of the fact that both Makiguchi and Toda were imprisoned as thought criminals well before Hiroshima, your assertions sound pretty baseless.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:52 am 
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Guys please take SGI discussion to its own thread and let's not derail this one please.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:04 am 
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I don't think Honmon Hokke Shu and Honmon Butsyryu Shu are the same.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:26 am 
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Nissen a priest in Honmon Hokke Shu was a reformer, left (he thought they were lax) and formed the Honmon Butsuryu Shu
http://nichirenscoffeehouse.net/Ryuei/HokkeShu_05.html
So the difference is pretty nil.

this also might help you too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichiren_B ... ad_temples
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