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Re: Was Nichiren a "Second Buddha"? Or...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:44 am
by Son of Buddha
Hey Illarraza

Im bored and that fellow is taken his time so I thought i would :stirthepot:

(1)does you accept the "letter of Misawa" as authentic?

(2)if it is authentic that would mean the Kanjin Honzon sho gossho should be treated like the pre lotus sutra teachings correct?

Letter of misawa
As for my teachings, regard those before my exile to Sado as equivalent to the Buddha’s pre-Lotus Sutra teachings. I had thought that if the ruler of this country desired to govern well, he would summon the priests of the Shingon sect for an open debate with me, and that, on that occasion, I would reveal for the first time the true teaching of supreme importance. Before my exile, I withheld this teaching even from my disciples for fear that if I should tell them, even in confidence, they might inadvertently disclose it to the Shingon priests, who would then avoid the debate. This is why I refrained from revealing the true teaching to all of you as well. Then on the night of the twelfth day of the ninth month in the eighth year of Bun’ei (1271), I was very nearly beheaded at Tatsunokuchi. From that time, I felt pity for my followers because I had not yet revealed the true teaching to any of them. With this in mind, I secretly conveyed my teaching to my disciples from the province of Sado. After the Buddha’s death, great scholars and teachers of Buddhism such Mahakashyapa, Ananda, Nagarjuna, Vasubandhu, T’ien-t’ai, Miao-lo, Dengyo and Gishin knew this teaching, but kept it in their hears and did not express it in words. The reason was that the Buddha had forbidden them to spread it, stating, "After my death, this great Law should not be revealed until the Latter Day of the Law arrives." I, Nichiren, may not be an envoy sent by the Buddha, but my appearance in this world coincides with the age of the Latter Day. Moreover, quite unexpectedly, I came to realize this teaching, which I now expound to prepare the way for a sage. With the appearance of this teaching, all the teachings advocated by the scholars and teacher o

Re: Was Nichiren a "Second Buddha"? Or...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:51 am
by Son of Buddha
Sorry on my phone (premature sendage)

(3) but if the Kanjin Honzon Sho was after Sado then it would be considered the true teaching(full teaching)
And that would leave practically very little chance for anyone to refute your comparisons correct?

(honestly have no dog in this fight just bored)

Re: Was Nichiren a "Second Buddha"? Or...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:15 pm
by noisemonkey
Son of Buddha wrote:Sorry on my phone (premature sendage)

(3) but if the Kanjin Honzon Sho was after Sado then it would be considered the true teaching(full teaching)
And that would leave practically very little chance for anyone to refute your comparisons correct?

(honestly have no dog in this fight just bored)


from Wikipedia:

Unsure of what to do with Nichiren, Hei no Saemon decided to banish him to Sado, an island in the Japan Sea known for its particularly severe winters and a place of harsh exile.

This exile, Nichiren's second, lasted about three years and, though harsh and in the long term detrimental to his health, represents one of the most important and productive segments of his life. While on Sado, he won many devoted converts and wrote two of his most important doctrinal treatises, the Kaimoku Shō (開目抄: "On the Opening of the Eyes" [10]) and the Kanjin no Honzon Shō (観心本尊抄: "The Object of Devotion for Observing the Mind"[11]) as well as numerous letters and minor treatises whose content containing critical components of his teaching.


I've been to the place at Tsukishima where he wrote that Gosho, it's an amazing place. Also Misawa Sho is on the Rokunai list

Re: Was Nichiren a "Second Buddha"? Or...

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:00 am
by dude
Jikan wrote:
noisemonkey wrote:Nichiren Shoshu doesn't teach that Nichiren is the Buddha reincarnated, it's a topic that needs a thread of it's own to do justice. Nichiren is the original Buddha from Kuon Ganjo (the infinite past) whereas Shakyamuni's enlightenment was first attained in the time of Gohyaku Jindengo (an extremely long but finite amount of time ago).
How have you been taught on this question?
Shakyamuni is a provisional Buddha who attained enlightenment at a point in time and manifested in this world as a Buddha.
Nichiren is the true Buddha, his enlightenment inherent and never attained, who manifested as a common mortal.