Masaru wrote:I think we're taking the interpretation of "intoxicants" a bit too far.
Hell no, although I don't buy into it myself, as I see the Zen perspective as stiff ass joyless puritanism, there is a certain logic to it and a perspective worth mulling over. That you can ingest things in media that can cause suffering. They are intoxicating even. We should look at the things we do that might in actually be bad for us. So many things should be interpreted as intoxicants.
During high school it was very easy for me to delve into Zen and occasionally practice seated meditation in private. I lived with my father's side of the family at the time, which is very religious and conservative, and it was already the case that watching television and other media was frowned on. (I was around people who preached against Pokemon, American Beauty, and the Sci-Fi channel.) So, if I 1 upped everyone by not even sweetening my tea it wasn't out of the ordinary. Of course, the Diamond precept doesn't mean that we can't or shouldn't undertake practices of moderation and abstention, and they can go a long way in to helping us truly appreciate life.
Nichiren wrote that he was not the founder of any school. There is a common ground that I'm beginning to see, more and more, that Nichiren Buddhism shares with other schools of Buddhism, particularly those from Japan.
Myoho-Nameless wrote:All that aside, its a personal code, the legalize all drugs camp is winning me over in spite of my being a Buddhist because not everyone is a Buddhist and we aught not to force Buddhism on anyone not receptive.
Meh. Substances we consider illegal drugs were declared illegal due to political concerns. It's been a tactic for culling minorities and political dissidents from the start. It goes right along with old practices like pathologizing things like introversion or even left-handedness. It has almost nothing to do with the official reasons given for it. Then again, I might just be experiencing symptoms of acute ODD
aggravated by ADHD
and environment triggered drapetomania
. Not that my hometown isn't nice
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