Venerable Hui Feng and Dae Bi,
thank you for your kind replies. i will try to work/polish, the hwa do, but honestly i dont think nor feel that there is anyone realizing or to realize anything. i cannot go against my direct experience in this matter, nonetheless will try to keep the hwa dao in mind.
please note that i see no difference between experience of self in the five skhandas and abscence of experience of self. self and no self are no different.
Phenomena have always been in a state of pacification, but that doesn't mean that we have realized that fact.
i have probably not realized that fact, it only seems logical to me.
But, because beings are deluded, what they are doing is really not fine, they are just continuing on in samsara.
it seems to me that the only delusion is that there is delusion. what beings are doing (in the words of Seng Chan) is neither 'right nor wrong', this is no excuse to deny the consequences of cause and effect.
i believe that there is no practice, but in order to bring harmony, i practice with my eyes on the consequnces of cause and effect, believing that ultimately there is not even a cause nor an effect. but for the practical benefits of practice, i continue in my practice... which i enjoy.
to deny cause and effect is to become a monster, to practice with an understanding of cause and effect is to become a saint. before enlightenment, eating cornflakes for breakfast. after enlightenment, eating cornflakes for breakfast. who says that practice must be relinquished. i dont.
it just seems to me that the notion we are deluded is in itself the greatest delusion.
with respect, White Lotus.perhaps, what people are
hung up about are merely cobwebs,
just shadows. is there honestly
is not the functioning already perfect?