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meditation medication high

Postby sattva » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:14 am

I had an interesting experience this afternoon. My one doctor prescribed a pain killer for me to take after they work on my foot at the wound care clinic. I almost never take anything for pain unless i am experiencing a really high level of pain. I took a pill this afternoon and at first i didn't notice anything at all. I was out at the time and when i got home i was going to take a nap and get off my aching foot. But i also had a strong desire to meditation again (I had already meditated in the morning). So i sat down and meditated. After about a half an hour or so, i felt really good. I stopped and called a relative. Afterwards, i started meditating again (breath meditation). Then i did metta. Then i went back to breath. I felt wonderful. Pain was gone and i felt both relaxed and focused. I can't remember the last time i felt so good, ---calm, happy, focused and NO PAIN!

I came to the conclusion i was as high as a kite. Thing is, i don't know how much was meditation and how much was medication lol. One thing for sure, i will take this medication only when absolutely necessary because it is addictive. But i wonder if any of you have had any similar experiences. Also, since the drug didn't seem to interfere with my ability to focus, if i were dying and in pain, this would be a good medication to take.

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Re: meditation medication high

Postby Ben » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:18 am

Hi Sattva,

Its medication and if used as a medication then there is no unwholesome result.
I am glad you had some relief from the pain!
Wishing you all the very best!
with metta,
Ben
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Re: meditation medication high

Postby poto » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:44 am

I have had similar experiences.

Had quite a bit of medical problems myself this last year. I have everything managed now, but I was in a lot of pain for several months.

I try to not worry about how effective my meditation is or how much progress I'm making and just do my best.

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Re: meditation medication high

Postby Viscid » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:55 am

Pain meds are fantastic.
"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: meditation medication high

Postby sattva » Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:26 am

After they worked on my foot today (well actually, it is now yesterday), it really hurt. I took a pain pill and observed my reaction. What I noticed is that about an hour after taking it, I seemed to go into a natural meditative state without trying. Several hours after I took the pill, i actually sat down to meditate. I did a breath meditation and then followed that with metta. Later as i went about my ordinary life, I noticed spontaneous feelings of goodwill and metta arose towards others.
I did not experience the euphoria that i felt previously.

Personally, I think it is a combination of meditation and medication. Like many of us who are Buddhists, especially those of us who are aging and who have health problems, I have thought a great deal about dying. I have always believed it was important to die with a calm focused mind. Although I believe one should try to avoid unnecssary medications, especially those that are addictive and that cloud the mind, it is good to know how this medication affects me. I could take this medication and still meditate as death approached.

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Re: meditation medication high

Postby sattva » Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:26 am

After they worked on my foot today (well actually, it is now yesterday), it really hurt. I took a pain pill and observed my reaction. What I noticed is that about an hour after taking it, I seemed to go into a natural meditative state without trying. Several hours after I took the pill, i actually sat down to meditate. I did a breath meditation and then followed that with metta. Later as i went about my ordinary life, I noticed spontaneous feelings of goodwill and metta arose towards others.
I did not experience the euphoria that i felt previously.

Personally, I think it is a combination of meditation and medication. Like many of us who are Buddhists, especially those of us who are aging and who have health problems, I have thought a great deal about dying. I have always believed it was important to die with a calm focused mind. Although I believe one should try to avoid unnecssary medications, especially those that are addictive and that cloud the mind, it is good to know how this medication affects me. I could take this medication and still meditate as death approached.

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Re: meditation medication high

Postby Upasaka » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:50 pm

The heart of the path is quite easy. There’s no need to explain anything at length. Let go of love and hate and let things be. That’s all that I do in my own practice.

- Ajahn Chah -

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Re: meditation medication high

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Re: meditation medication high

Postby manas » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:52 pm

Hi sattva,

I had a big rotten molar extracted, and they gave me paracetamol with codeine added. I did not want to take painkillers either, but when the anesthetic started wearing off in my jaw, and I felt a whole new level of pain with which I had been unfamiliar with for my whole life, I started reaching for the panadeine forte. Two of these, and the pain was almost totally gone, but that night I kept sort of floating out of my body (or so I perceived it) while trying to get to sleep, so I sat up to meditate, and kept floating out even with that, although a bit less. In case anyone thinks this 'floating' was pleasant, no, it was quite unpleasant...In the end I got up and put some music on, and waited till I became so thoroughly exhausted that sleep just descended upon me...opiates don't seem to agree with me!

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perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: meditation medication high

Postby manas » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:06 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: meditation medication high

Postby fig tree » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:28 am

Once as I was trying to fall asleep again I had this sensation of lightness, like I was made of some kind of fluffy material. I told a friend about it and said I didn't know whether I would ever repeat the experience. When it happened again it occurred to me that both times, I had taken some valerian and then done a breath meditation for awhile before trying to fall asleep again in the morning. I think the meditation makes the mild tranquilizing effect of the valerian more obvious. Since then I've found that I can sometimes get something of the same feeling without one or the other.

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