Dharma Wheel

A Buddhist discussion forum on Mahayana and Vajrayana Buddhism
It is currently Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:30 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:16 am
Posts: 183
Dear Everyone,
Can anyone explain the significance of the dragon on the White Dzambala deity?

Is the practice of White Dzambala to overcome one's ego or arrogance whilst one has tremendous wealth?

Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:46 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:58 pm
Posts: 630
Dzambala is a Bodhisattva on the 8th Bhumi.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:38 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:26 am
Posts: 217
Eww. More Tsem Tulku spam.
I thought they smoked all you guys out already.
(goes to get the broom)

viewtopic.php?t=9265

_________________
If there is a radical inconsistency between your statements and the position you claim to hold,
you are a sock puppet.
Make as many accounts as you want; people can identify your deception with this test.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:44 am 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:55 pm
Posts: 3142
waimengwan wrote:
Dear Everyone,
Can anyone explain the significance of the dragon on the White Dzambala deity?

Is the practice of White Dzambala to overcome one's ego or arrogance whilst one has tremendous wealth?

Thanks


No need to do White Dzambala if you got a "tremendous wealth", no?

/magnus

_________________
"To reject practice by saying, 'it is conceptual!' is the path of fools. A tendency of the inexperienced and something to be avoided."
- Longchenpa


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:46 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:41 am
Posts: 2776
Quote:
Dzambala is a Bodhisattva on the 8th Bhumi.
And the source text for this is? :thanks:

_________________
TWTB BIES OCB DDM BWF


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:11 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:16 am
Posts: 183
@heart probably true, I still want to know about the significance of the dragon someone kind of asked me would be good if I can explain much better.

Thank you.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 8:28 am
Posts: 2327
Location: the Netherlands and India
As I understand White Dzambhala is more connected with wealth for dharma and Yellow Dzambhala for both dharma and (virtuous) worldly endeavours... But this information in my head is rather old so perhaps others are better sources.

_________________
In order to ensure my mind never comes under the power of the self-cherishing attitude,
I must obtain control over my own mind.
Therefore, amongst all empowerments, the empowerment that gives me control over my mind is the best,
and I have received the most profound empowerment with this teaching.
-Atisha Dipamkara
brtsal ba'i bkhra drin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:39 am
Posts: 23
Location: Helsinki
I feel that the White Dzambala practice is best suited to the superstitious and gullible fools who aim for a rebirth as a pig. :crazy:

_________________
OM GATE GATE PARAGATE PARASAMGATE BODHI SVAHA


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:32 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 8:28 am
Posts: 2327
Location: the Netherlands and India
He was just asking a question, no need to give him a hard time... There's never a reason to be so unkind. Prosperity practices can be done with strange motivations, I agree, but you have no way of knowing what someone else's motivation is. And brutal sarcasm doesn't usually work for convincing someone of your argument.

_________________
In order to ensure my mind never comes under the power of the self-cherishing attitude,
I must obtain control over my own mind.
Therefore, amongst all empowerments, the empowerment that gives me control over my mind is the best,
and I have received the most profound empowerment with this teaching.
-Atisha Dipamkara
brtsal ba'i bkhra drin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:51 pm 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:49 pm
Posts: 2808
Location: Bay Area, CA, USA
SunRay wrote:
I feel that the White Dzambala practice is best suited to the superstitious and gullible fools who aim for a rebirth as a pig. :crazy:


Yo, Out of line.

White Dzambala practice comes from Atisha, and is practiced in my lineage especially as part of daily "Water Torma" offerings. The general idea is that you are praying to relieve the poverty of all sentient beings. It's a practice with compassion at it's heart, and focused on specific kind of suffering. (Not sure about the Dragon, though.....I think Dragons are associated with wealth and good fortune, generally).

_________________
May any merit generated by on-line discussion
Be dedicated to the Ultimate Benefit of All Sentient Beings.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:47 pm
Posts: 112
Here is another example of what white Dzambala is of benefit for.....

"Summoning Good Fortune,"
A short practice excerpted from the White Zhambala Sadhana.

This is the text for a traditional Tibetan ritual, where the practitioner calls upon White Zhambala to bestow his blessings--buddhahood, spiritual accomplishments, and all things positive in this life. H.E. Garchen Rinpoche asks his sangha to recite this text frequently, because it brings tremendous benefit to the whole world.


Here is a short exert from the prayer:

May I obtain the empowerment of mahamudra, which liberates from samsara's pain.
May I obtain the empowerment of self-knowing dharmakaya, which is primordially unsullied by the confused perceptions of unawareness. May I obtain the empowerment of the Great Completion, which is primordially unsullied by all phenomena of samsara and nirvana.
May I obtain the empowerment of the Great Middle Way, which naturally liberates the four extremes of permanence and annihilation. May I obtain the empowerment of the Perfection of Transcendent Knowledge, which is inexpressible through descriptions or conceptions.
May I obtain the empowerment of openness free from fixation, which naturally liberates dualistic propensities.
May I obtain the empowerment of immortal life, which is the unchanging expanse of awareness.
May I obtain the empowerment of awakening within one lifetime, which is the endless [accumulation of] merit.

I have this short practice in .pdf if any one is interested.

all the best
bryan.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:13 pm 
Online

Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:51 am
Posts: 440
Bryan, I would like one.

Lhasa


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:53 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:50 pm
Posts: 1358
Lhasa, I tried to contact you via private message twice but i didnt receive an answer.

I have the White Dzambala practice sadhana from Garchen's webstore.

i dont use it and i would like to donate it to you. will you accept it ?

-konchok zoepa

_________________
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: White Dzambala
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 1:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:19 pm
Posts: 460
bryandavis wrote:
Here is another example of what white Dzambala is of benefit for.....

"Summoning Good Fortune,"
A short practice excerpted from the White Zhambala Sadhana.

This is the text for a traditional Tibetan ritual, where the practitioner calls upon White Zhambala to bestow his blessings--buddhahood, spiritual accomplishments, and all things positive in this life. H.E. Garchen Rinpoche asks his sangha to recite this text frequently, because it brings tremendous benefit to the whole world.


Here is a short exert from the prayer:

May I obtain the empowerment of mahamudra, which liberates from samsara's pain.
May I obtain the empowerment of self-knowing dharmakaya, which is primordially unsullied by the confused perceptions of unawareness. May I obtain the empowerment of the Great Completion, which is primordially unsullied by all phenomena of samsara and nirvana.
May I obtain the empowerment of the Great Middle Way, which naturally liberates the four extremes of permanence and annihilation. May I obtain the empowerment of the Perfection of Transcendent Knowledge, which is inexpressible through descriptions or conceptions.
May I obtain the empowerment of openness free from fixation, which naturally liberates dualistic propensities.
May I obtain the empowerment of immortal life, which is the unchanging expanse of awareness.
May I obtain the empowerment of awakening within one lifetime, which is the endless [accumulation of] merit.

:good:

Thanks for this, bryan. Very illuminating. I can personally attest to the swift power of Dzambhala to generate wealth for the purpose of Dharma study/practice. I received an empowerment of his yellow form in an effort to find funding for a trip to India/Nepal to study Tibetan, do some retreat, and attend empowerments, and even without doing the practice (listening to my lama), I wound up with a generous benefactor.

:woohoo:

As for the OP, I'm also interested in learning about the symbolism behind the dragon mount. Only thing I know about dragons is that they're associated with thunder (which Tibetan's often call "the dragon's roar"). Anyone else have info on this, perhaps drawn from one of Robert Beer's books? I'll ask around with my thangka artist friends and see what I come up with.

_________________
"The Sutras, Tantras, and Philosophical Scriptures are great in number. However life is short, and intelligence is limited, so it's hard to cover them completely. You may know a lot, but if you don't put it into practice, it's like dying of thirst on the shore of a great lake. Likewise, it happens that a common corpse is found in the bed of a great scholar." ~ Karma Chagme

དྲིན་ཆེན་རྗེ་བཙུན་བླ་མ་རཱ་ག་ཨ་སྱ་མཁྱེན་ནོ།
ཀརྨ་པ་མཁྱེན་ནོ།


:namaste:


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Yahoo [Bot] and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group