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Maras' Lifespan

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Maras' Lifespan

Postby pelletboy » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:46 am

Hi it is said that the current Mara was the nephew of Maha Mogallana before he took hos last birth and was the head Mara at the time of the Buddha before Gotama Buddha. He went to heel after doing some evil to an arhat and his nephew replaced him and now the he is the current head Mara. Are Maras' lifespan that long that the nephew could encounter 2 Buddhas? Is is stated anywhere how long they live? And what other devas live that long?

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Re: Maras' Lifespan

Postby yamaka » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:15 am

Dear Palletboy,

Base on the information(The 31 planes of existence)

(11) Devas Wielding Power over the Creation of Others (paranimmita-vasavatti deva)
Which their lifespan could up to 16,000 Celestial years, 1 day = 1,600 human years


Somewhere I have heard too the Buddha recollected his past life(91? kappas, could somebody clarify this?) and only discovered 7 Sammasambuddhas. Imagine averagely every 13 kappas only have occurred 1 Sammasambuddha.

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Re: Maras' Lifespan

Postby alan » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:05 am

It was not meant to be taken literally. Mara is a metaphor.

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Re: Maras' Lifespan

Postby rowboat » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:12 am

Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
Ud 5.5

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Re: Maras' Lifespan

Postby Ben » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:24 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Postby manas » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:54 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Maras' Lifespan

Postby whynotme » Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:02 am

I just want what ever kind of heaven. To be honest, I want to reborn as human but I don't mind if reborn in Mara realm. Hey, I will scare all of you, it is a great thing to do. But reborn as human is like cheating, you could slow down time, while other players have a day, you have 1600 years to do most of the things you want :jumping:

Oh and I want to reborn as human while dhamma still exists.

Ben, why should I be careful?

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Re: Maras' Lifespan

Postby santa100 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:04 pm

One could wish and dream all they want, but without concrete actions to generate good kammas, s/he won't get anywhere. There's a sutta (couldn't find the reference at the moment) which the Buddha used the analogy of oil and heavy stone. Something like, whether one wishes to be reborn to a certain realm, if s/he created bad kammas, s/he'd be like a heavy stone that automatically sinks to the bottom of the lake no matter what. Vice versa, if one created good kammas, s/he would naturally float on top of the lake just like oil..

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