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How one could be considered an arahant?

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How one could be considered an arahant?

Postby whynotme » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:10 am

Hi,

We could find many in suttas as a monk was said to be an arahant, but in patimokkha, the Buddha didn't allow a monk to say someone is an arahant to lay people. So where did those things come from? Even now a day, some one could be considered an arahant, who could confirm those kinds of things?

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Re: How one could be considered an arahant?

Postby robertk » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:07 am

You either know yourself- viz the flickering eyelids , or can write to Daniel Ingram for professioanl evaluation.

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Re: How one could be considered an arahant?

Postby cooran » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:07 am

Hello whynotme, all,

You may find this of interest:

How to tell if you are an arahant:
SN 35:152 Atthinukhopariyaayo Sutta: Is There a Criterion? - translated from the Pali by Maurice O'Connell Walshe
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .wlsh.html

Other Suttas and Articles on Arahants:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/index-su ... ml#arahant

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Re: How one could be considered an arahant?

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:09 pm

Every once in a while at a temple or Dhamma center a n00b will attend and ask, "I think I am enlightened, can you certify or tell me for sure that I am enlightened?

If I am asked, I'll tell them "you're not enlightened."
n00b: "how do you know?"
Me: "I can tell."
n00b: "how can you tell, are you enlightened?" :tantrum:
Me: "No, but I can see that you are not."
n00b: "how can you tell?" :tantrum:
Me: "Because you asked, an Arahant wouldn't have to ask."
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Re: How one could be considered an arahant?

Postby Ben » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:15 pm

David, you must be the real party pooper at your temple!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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