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michaelb wrote:but listing her as his first western student in this discussion could, like mention of Pema Chodron, be taken as another example of CTR'S greatness.
Adamantine wrote:If anything, I am guessing that was a tangential aside and it's gotten too much focus now, so
michaelb wrote:Fair enough. I don't know. I'm aware no one suggested that Tenzin Palmo became a great practitioner because she met Thrungpa, but listing her as his first western student in this discussion could, like mention of Pema Chodron, be taken as another example of CTR'S greatness. Which I think wouldn't be fair.
dzogchungpa wrote:smcj wrote:This will give the Shambhala people the willies. I got it by clinking on another DW thread called, "The Highest Maha Ati Teachings - Rigdzin Shikpo (Hookam)". It is in the context of letters exchanged between Shenpen Hookam and somebody named Walter.Dear Shenpen,
I know that Rinpoche often expressed appreciation for Meister Eckhart -- but I don't remember his mentioning Krishnamurti. [Would anyone else like to chime in here? What books did Rinpoche recommended to you?]
Why would that give anyone the willies? Here's a passage from "Lion's Roar":We might think, “I’m very smart, extraordinarily smart. I’ve read all the books on Buddhism, about the twelve nidanas and about everything else. I have the answers. I’ve read about tantra. I’ve read about Naropa and Milarepa. I’ve read Meister Eckhart, the medieval mystic who talks about beautiful things. And I’ve even read about Don Juan, who says wonderful things about the nature of reality. I’ve read Krishnamurti, who is very sensible. I’m hopeful, obviously. There’s got to be a way out somewhere. There must be something. Things can’t be all that gray and hopeless.”
Simon E. wrote:For anyone who may not know the subsequent events, Krishnamurti's people contacted CTR's secretary some months later and suggested a follow-up...CTR gave him a long look ( I was there ) and said " Absolutely not ..dreadful man..dreadful. "
heart wrote:Simon E. wrote:For anyone who may not know the subsequent events, Krishnamurti's people contacted CTR's secretary some months later and suggested a follow-up...CTR gave him a long look ( I was there ) and said " Absolutely not ..dreadful man..dreadful. "
my thoughts exactly.
Nilasarasvati wrote:If it weren't for Pema Chodron's and Tenzin Palmo's much more...modest examples of enlightened activity, I would still have great doubts about the consequences of Trungpa Rinpoche's activites.
Knotty Veneer wrote:I'm not so sure that Tenzin Palmo can really be claimed as a student of Trungpa. Her main teacher was the previous Khamtrul Rinpoche.
Vicki Mackenzie wrote: She became a private pupil of the talented Trungpa. Now instead of having only a few books to turn to for guidance, she had a living resource. She was delighted.
Anybody got new food for thought? This thread has been fun for me thus far!
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