A third candidate

[gregkavarnos]

I just didn't want to use the same verb twice, that's also why I put the word "chosen" in apostrophes.

[conebeckham]

No prob, Greg--just wanted the record to be clear.

[Stewart]

.....and Karmapa doesn't 'live with the Dalai Lama' Karmapa lives at Gyuto in Sidhbari...the Dalai Lama lives in McLeod Ganj, about half an hour away.

[gregkavarnos]

.....and Karmapa doesn't 'live with the Dalai Lama' Karmapa lives at Gyuto in Sidhbari...the Dalai Lama lives in McLeod Ganj, about half an hour away.

Half an hour with what mode of transport EXACTLY!? A whole half an hour or 28 minutes and some seconds? Hmmmm...?

[conebeckham]

It's India....so transport is by Rickshaw (nah, I don't think so).... Or Putt Putt? Or Jeep, with 26 other passengers, including six hanging off the back? Or maybe, by TaTA..



I love India.

[Stewart]

I said about half an hour Greg my point was Karmapa doesn't live with the Dalai Lama.

ps. I love in India too, too hot for me in summer though.

[conebeckham]

I love these things...

[YesheDron'May]

Why would HH The Dali Lama live with the Karmapa the chinese chose , Ise'nt he a fake Karmapa ??????

[Josef]

Why would HH The Dali Lama live with the Karmapa the chinese chose , Ise'nt he a fake Karmapa ??????

The Chinese didnt choose him and he doensnt live with the Dalai Lama.

[gregkavarnos]

I reckon that people really need to kill the Karmapa that lives inside their head!
(apologies to the Situationist International)
It's the only way for them to actually see the Karmapa.

[Ösel]

I reckon that people really need to kill the Karmapa that lives inside their head!
(apologies to the Situationist International)
It's the only way for them to actually see the Karmapa.

[sherabpa]

The thing about this guy Dawa Sangpo is that he was born in 1977, four years before the H.H. 16th Karmapa died. This obviously disqualifies him from being a genuine candidate.

[pemachophel]

The previous Dudjom Rinpoche, Jigdral Yeshe Dorje, was born several years before Dudjom Lingpa died. That didn't disqualify Him. Within the tulku system, this is a particular kind of tulku. Unfortunately, I don't remember the Tibetan name. Maybe someone else can supply it.

[Karinos]

Emanation before the passing away of the predecessor (ma-dhey tulku)

Usually a reincarnation has to be someone’s taking rebirth as a human being after previously passing away. Ordinary sentient beings generally cannot manifest an emanation before death (ma-dhey tulku), but superior Bodhisattvas, who can manifest themselves in hundreds or thousands of bodies simultaneously, can manifest an emanation before death. Within the Tibetan system of recognizing Tulkus there are emanations who belong to the same mind-stream as the predecessor, emanations who are connected to others through the power of karma and prayers, and emanations who come as a result of blessings and appointment.

http://www.dalailama.com/messages/tibet ... -statement

btw - great reading from H.H. about Tulku system

[daelm]

The thing about this guy Dawa Sangpo is that he was born in 1977, four years before the H.H. 16th Karmapa died. This obviously disqualifies him from being a genuine candidate.

not necessarily. tulkus have been appointed before under similar circumstances.


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