Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby Tara » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:12 pm





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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby Knotty Veneer » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:48 pm

From Samye Ling:

Akong Rinpoche's cremation will take place in Dolma Lhakang at 5am local time – approximately 10.30pm UK time. In Samye Ling we’ll chant Jamgon Kongtrul’s ‘Calling the Distant Guru From Afar’ at 10pm in the Temple.
Those of you who can’t be here and people in Samye Dzongs may also like to do this prayer or whatever prayer you prefer.


Transliteration of Jamgon Kongtrul’s ‘Calling the Distant Guru From Afar’:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/428464

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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby KonchokZoepa » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:07 pm

and when is this exactly ? today?
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby palchi » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:17 pm

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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby Knotty Veneer » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:24 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:and when is this exactly ? today?


Yes tonight October 16 10:30pm UK time - 5:30pm EST US East Coast
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby KonchokZoepa » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:14 pm

thanks for the info and the video. does anyone know where one can get the calling lama from afar text in tibetan phonetics and with english translation?
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby ReasonAndRhyme » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:26 pm

Knotty Veneer wrote:Transliteration of Jamgon Kongtrul’s ‘Calling the Distant Guru From Afar’:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/428464
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby KonchokZoepa » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:28 pm

thank you very much. :namaste:
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby KonchokZoepa » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:50 pm

ReasonAndRhyme wrote:
Knotty Veneer wrote:Transliteration of Jamgon Kongtrul’s ‘Calling the Distant Guru From Afar’:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/428464



this is not the complete version.. :( almost but not complete. thanks anyway :namaste: , the text is amazing
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby Tara » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:06 pm

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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby honestdboy » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:30 am

I was wondering if H.H. Karmapa Thaye Dorje would write a condolence letter for Akong Rinpoche. I'm happy that he wrote one. http://www.karmapa.org/ :anjali:
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby Karma Jinpa » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:50 am

honestdboy wrote:I was wondering if H.H. Karmapa Thaye Dorje would write a condolence letter for Akong Rinpoche. I'm happy that he wrote one. http://www.karmapa.org/ :anjali:


It's indeed nice to see TTD's offering of condolences for the loss of such great masters, who at least nominally were supporters of his "rival." May we all have the blessing of the non-dual view, and may all beings have the all-seeing eye of wisdom!
:namaste:

That said, the way the letter is phrased, TTD seems to be under the impression that both Akong Rinpoche & Chagme Rinpoche were killed in Chengdu along with another monk. Perhaps this is simply a bad translation. Not sure how much English he's had training in, or if maybe someone simply misrepresented the facts to him. And of course, if it is a translation, there is no original in Tibetan to compare to...
:shrug:

Meanwhile, those following the stories closely know that Karma Chagme Rinpoche passed away on 3rd October in a hospital in New Delhi, India, whereas Chöjé Akong Rinpoche, his nephew and one other monk were murdered on 8th October in Chengdu, China.

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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby Simon E. » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:57 am

I would guess that H.H. has simply been misinformed Karma Jinpa..his English is excellent.
Yes how heartening to see once again that the Masters have compassion and sympathy to a degree way beyond some of those who claim to speak for them.
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby Knotty Veneer » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:10 am

Karma Jinpa wrote:
That said, the way the letter is phrased, TTD seems to be under the impression that both Akong Rinpoche & Chagme Rinpoche were killed in Chengdu along with another monk. Perhaps this is simply a bad translation. Not sure how much English he's had training in, or if maybe someone simply misrepresented the facts to him. And of course, if it is a translation, there is no original in Tibetan to compare to...
:shrug:



Yes the letter does seem to confuse the two passings. However, I am sure the condoleances are genuine and will be appreciated by all the students of both Akong Rinpoche and Chagme Rinpoche.
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby ReasonAndRhyme » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:03 am

Simon E. wrote:I would guess that H.H. has simply been misinformed Karma Jinpa..his English is excellent.


Agree. I guess he's not exactly on their telephone list.
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby Stewart » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:31 am

The Karmapa has now composed a swift rebirth prayer for Akong Rinpoche, you'll find Tibeten, English and phonetics on Facebook.
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby Knotty Veneer » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:39 am

Stewart wrote:The Karmapa has now composed a swift rebirth prayer for Akong Rinpoche, you'll find Tibeten, English and phonetics on Facebook.


Could you post it here or PM me Stewart - can't access Facebook here. Thanks.
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Re: Murder of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby Stewart » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:57 am

Hey,

PM me your email...I have it on pdf
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Re: Killing of Akong Rinpoche & Entourage

Postby ReasonAndRhyme » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:48 pm

Knotty Veneer wrote:Also it appears the use of word "assassination" in the original message was a simple slip of the tongue - there is no one at Samye Ling who believes this is anything other than an attempted robbery badly gone wrong.

October 14, 2013
Unfortunately I used the word "assassination" in respect of the killing of my brother Akong Rinpoche. English is not my first language and I did not appreciate that the word means killing with a religious or political motive. I never intended to imply that there was such a motive and I regret the misunderstanding that has been caused.

Lama Yeshe Losal Rinpoche
Abbot of Samye Ling Monastery, Scotland.


Since the word "assassination" was only used by mistake could maybe one of the moderators change the thread's title into "killing" or "homicide"?
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