Bhikshu Ordination of Karmapa 17

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Bhikshu Ordination of Karmapa 17

Postby WuMing » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:01 am

hello,

does anybody know, if and when the 17. Karmapa, Orgyen Trinley Dorje received full ordination, bhikshu vows?
thanks for any reply!

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今以佛眼觀之佛與眾生同住解脫之床。無此無彼無二平等。
Now, observing with the eye of the Buddha, both the Buddha and ordinary beings are in the same liberated state. There is neither this nor that: there is only non-duality and identity.
- 空海 Kūkai in Unjigi 吽字義 The Meaning of the Letter Hūṃ
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Re: Bhikshu Ordination of Karmapa 17

Postby Jinzang » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:08 am

I don't think he has taken full ordination yet.
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Re: Bhikshu Ordination of Karmapa 17

Postby WuMing » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:17 pm

Thanks for your reply! I thought so, too, but was not really sure about it. I wonder if he will do it or what are the reasons he hasn't done it, yet, respectively.
Anyway, thanks for reply again.
今以佛眼觀之佛與眾生同住解脫之床。無此無彼無二平等。
Now, observing with the eye of the Buddha, both the Buddha and ordinary beings are in the same liberated state. There is neither this nor that: there is only non-duality and identity.
- 空海 Kūkai in Unjigi 吽字義 The Meaning of the Letter Hūṃ
- Kūkai on the Philosophy of Language by Takagi Shingen and Dreitlein Eijō
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Śrī Singha said to Padmasambhava:
Since buddhas and sentient beings are inseparable and the same, it is necessary to respect all sentient beings as being on the same level with the buddhas. Can you?
- translated by Malcolm N. Smith

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Postby DGA » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:27 am

If you read Karma Thinley's History of the Sixteen Karmapas, you notice that some of them take full ordination much later in life than others. I can't recall which Karmapa it was, but one of them did not do so until his early 30s.

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Postby kirtu » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:18 am

Was the 15th Karmapa the only householder?

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Postby WuMing » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:55 am

今以佛眼觀之佛與眾生同住解脫之床。無此無彼無二平等。
Now, observing with the eye of the Buddha, both the Buddha and ordinary beings are in the same liberated state. There is neither this nor that: there is only non-duality and identity.
- 空海 Kūkai in Unjigi 吽字義 The Meaning of the Letter Hūṃ
- Kūkai on the Philosophy of Language by Takagi Shingen and Dreitlein Eijō
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Śrī Singha said to Padmasambhava:
Since buddhas and sentient beings are inseparable and the same, it is necessary to respect all sentient beings as being on the same level with the buddhas. Can you?
- translated by Malcolm N. Smith

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Re: Bhikshu Ordination of Karmapa 17

Postby Grigoris » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:22 pm

Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorje (born in 1983) was ordained a shramanera at the age of 11 by Chobgye Tri Rinpoche and at 16 he started a 3 year retreat. He took his full ordination at the age of 23.
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Postby Grigoris » Thu May 30, 2013 5:48 pm

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