Düpa Do - The Sutra which Gathers All Intentions
Düpa Do - The Sutra which Gathers All Intentions
Taklung Tsetrul Rinpoche will give The Sutra which Gathers All Intentions, one of the four main Anuyoga Tantras, during the summer retreat during the Khordong association of Poland summer retreat 5 August - 2 September. http://www.khordong.de/Engl/Events/2012 ... t2012.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Can someone elaborate on the Tantra please? What is it about? Why would it be good to receive? Etc. etc.
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Clarence wrote:Can someone elaborate on the Tantra please? What is it about? Why would it be good to receive? Etc. etc.
It is the root tantra and empowerment of Anuyoga.
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Thanks N-la, so this would be good to receive? I was hoping he would give the Gongpa Zangthal but this sounds very nice as well. Does it have Rigpa'i Tsal Wang?Namdrol wrote:Clarence wrote:Can someone elaborate on the Tantra please? What is it about? Why would it be good to receive? Etc. etc.
It is the root tantra and empowerment of Anuyoga.
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Clarence wrote:Thanks N-la, so this would be good to receive? I was hoping he would give the Gongpa Zangthal but this sounds very nice as well. Does it have Rigpa'i Tsal Wang?Namdrol wrote:Clarence wrote:Can someone elaborate on the Tantra please? What is it about? Why would it be good to receive? Etc. etc.
It is the root tantra and empowerment of Anuyoga.
This is one of the three critical empowerments one can receive. The other two are the Guhyagarbha empowerment and the Khandro Nyinthig empowerment.
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Thanks N-la, as usual! Hope Rinpoche will be able to make it to Poland then. And me too of course.Namdrol wrote: This is one of the three critical empowerments one can receive. The other two are the Guhyagarbha empowerment and the Khandro Nyinthig empowerment.
BTW, which Khandro Nyingthig empowerment do you mean? I thought there are many in the KN. Still want to receive the Nyingthig Yabzhi.
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Clarence wrote:Thanks N-la, as usual! Hope Rinpoche will be able to make it to Poland then. And me too of course.Namdrol wrote: This is one of the three critical empowerments one can receive. The other two are the Guhyagarbha empowerment and the Khandro Nyinthig empowerment.
BTW, which Khandro Nyingthig empowerment do you mean? I thought there are many in the KN. Still want to receive the Nyingthig Yabzhi.
There is only one empowerment for Khandro Nyinthig.
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Rinpoche gave the dzogchen cycle of initiations four or three years ago in Darnkow, Poland, but as I talked with some person it was not the full cycle. Another Rinpoche from Bhutan http://yeshekhorlo.mahajana.net/wp-cont ... /awers.jpg gave the full cycle of initiations of Khando Nyinthig in 2009 during 2 weeks. In France it was one year ago. Rigpa'i Tsal Wang take place during one of the next retreats according to this cycle, called retreat of thogal, polish info http://yeshekhorlo.mahajana.net/categor ... _dzogczen/ You should wait for the next time. They are giving them every few years.Clarence wrote:Thanks N-la, so this would be good to receive? I was hoping he would give the Gongpa Zangthal but this sounds very nice as well. Does it have Rigpa'i Tsal Wang?Namdrol wrote:Clarence wrote:Can someone elaborate on the Tantra please? What is it about? Why would it be good to receive? Etc. etc.
It is the root tantra and empowerment of Anuyoga.
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Why do you consider these three to be critical?Namdrol wrote:Clarence wrote:Thanks N-la, so this would be good to receive? I was hoping he would give the Gongpa Zangthal but this sounds very nice as well. Does it have Rigpa'i Tsal Wang?Namdrol wrote: It is the root tantra and empowerment of Anuyoga.
This is one of the three critical empowerments one can receive. The other two are the Guhyagarbha empowerment and the Khandro Nyinthig empowerment.
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Taklung Tsetrul Rinpoche already gave the Gonpa Zangtal in Poland a few years ago, and in America.Clarence wrote:Thanks N-la, so this would be good to receive? I was hoping he would give the Gongpa Zangthal but this sounds very nice as well. Does it have Rigpa'i Tsal Wang?Namdrol wrote:Clarence wrote:Can someone elaborate on the Tantra please? What is it about? Why would it be good to receive? Etc. etc.
It is the root tantra and empowerment of Anuyoga.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Says Kunzang Gongdu, not Khandro Nyingthig. In any case, I wish there was some mailing list for these events in Europe or something.Mariusz wrote: Rinpoche gave the dzogchen cycle of initiations four or three years ago in Darnkow, Poland, but as I talked with some person it was not the full cycle. Another Rinpoche from Bhutan http://yeshekhorlo.mahajana.net/wp-cont ... /awers.jpg gave the full cycle of initiations of Khando Nyinthig in 2009 during 2 weeks.
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Please see section 2.8.6 of Precious Vase.Pero wrote: Why do you consider these three to be critical?
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Yes, I know. He will give the Gongpa Zangthal again in May in India. Unfortunately I just come back from there and can't apply for a new visa. Anyway, this sounds great as well.heart wrote:
Taklung Tsetrul Rinpoche already gave the Gonpa Zangtal in Poland a few years ago, and in America.
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Thanks Mariusz. Kungzang Gongdu sounds nice as wel. Too many nice teachings out there.Mariusz wrote: Rinpoche gave the dzogchen cycle of initiations four or three years ago in Darnkow, Poland, but as I talked with some person it was not the full cycle. Another Rinpoche from Bhutan http://yeshekhorlo.mahajana.net/wp-cont ... /awers.jpg gave the full cycle of initiations of Khando Nyinthig in 2009 during 2 weeks. In France it was one year ago. Rigpa'i Tsal Wang take place during one of the next retreats according to this cycle, called retreat of thogal, polish info http://yeshekhorlo.mahajana.net/categor ... _dzogczen/ You should wait for the next time. They are giving them every few years.
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Yes I'm aware of this (it's 2.8.5 and funnily I opened the PV exactly on this page right now haha). However, I never really understood this. Here it almost sounds as if you can't practice anything unless you receive these but that shouldn't be the case since otherwise all those teachings we've received so far would be pointless. So could you shed some light on this?Namdrol wrote:Please see section 2.8.6 of Precious Vase.Pero wrote: Why do you consider these three to be critical?
I see that the Shitro Khorde Rangdrol from Changchub Dorje is also noted as one of those that one should receive if the others aren't an option. Rinpoche is giving it again this year in Merigar...
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Pero wrote:Yes I'm aware of this (it's 2.8.5 and funnily I opened the PV exactly on this page right now haha). However, I never really understood this. Here it almost sounds as if you can't practice anything unless you receive these but that shouldn't be the case since otherwise all those teachings we've received so far would be pointless. So could you shed some light on this?Namdrol wrote:Please see section 2.8.6 of Precious Vase.Pero wrote: Why do you consider these three to be critical?
I see that the Shitro Khorde Rangdrol from Changchub Dorje is also noted as one of those that one should receive if the others aren't an option. Rinpoche is giving it again this year in Merigar...
In my edition, (1999, 2001) it is 2.8.6.
I suspect that these initiations are the ones that render one suitable to continue in Santi Mahasangha.
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Künzang Gongpa Kündü, "The Totality of Samantabhadra Enlightened Intentions", is bhutanese complete terma of Khandro Nyinthig, and it also cantains other teachings like Anuyoga tsalung and tummo. Pema Lingpa was the one of the 5 main tertons and also the one who was the incarnation of Longchenpa up to Princess Pemasel. If you look in bio of HH Dudjom Rinpoche it was one of His main transmissions He gave, also to Bhutan.Pero wrote:Says Kunzang Gongdu, not Khandro Nyingthig. In any case, I wish there was some mailing list for these events in Europe or something.Mariusz wrote: Rinpoche gave the dzogchen cycle of initiations four or three years ago in Darnkow, Poland, but as I talked with some person it was not the full cycle. Another Rinpoche from Bhutan http://yeshekhorlo.mahajana.net/wp-cont ... /awers.jpg gave the full cycle of initiations of Khando Nyinthig in 2009 during 2 weeks.
I will inform you next time, sorry
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No, the Kunzang Gondu is a completely different cycle. Yes, of course it is related to Khandro Nyinthig, since it, like the Khandro Nyinthig is rooted in the klong gsal nyi ma bar ma rgyud.Mariusz wrote:Kunzang Gongdu Kundu, "The Totality of Samantabhadra Enlightened Intentions" is bhutanese complete terma of Khandro Nyinthig, and it also cantains other teachings like Anuyoga tsalung and tummo. Pema Linga was the one of the 5 main tertons and also the one who was the incarnation of Longchenpa up to Princess Pemasel. If you look in bio of HH Dudjom Rinpoche it was one of His main transmissions He gave, also to Bhutan.Pero wrote:Says Kunzang Gongdu, not Khandro Nyingthig. In any case, I wish there was some mailing list for these events in Europe or something.Mariusz wrote: Rinpoche gave the dzogchen cycle of initiations four or three years ago in Darnkow, Poland, but as I talked with some person it was not the full cycle. Another Rinpoche from Bhutan http://yeshekhorlo.mahajana.net/wp-cont ... /awers.jpg gave the full cycle of initiations of Khando Nyinthig in 2009 during 2 weeks.
I will inform you next time, sorry
But specifically the Khandro Khandro Nyinthig is the terma of Tulku Tsultrim Dorje. The Khandro Yantig is the supplement to this by Longchenpa. Since Peme Lingpa is considered the tulku of Longchenpa, for this reason the Kunzang Gongdu is considered to be a further supplement to teh Khandro Nyinthig -- but it is not the Khandro Nyinthig which is only two volumes long and between the Khandro Nyinthig and Yanthig, there is only one empowerment composed by Longchenpa based on teh root texts of the Khandro Nyinthig.
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Are you working on a translation of the Khandro Nyingthig? Seems like a good project.Namdrol wrote: No, the Kunzang Gondu is a completely different cycle. Yes, of course it is related to Khandro Nyinthig, since it, like the Khandro Nyinthig is rooted in the klong gsal nyi ma bar ma rgyud.
But specifically the Khandro Khandro Nyinthig is the terma of Tulku Tsultrim Dorje. The Khandro Yantig is the supplement to this by Longchenpa. Since Peme Lingpa is considered the tulku of Longchenpa, for this reason the Kunzang Gongdu is considered to be a further supplement to teh Khandro Nyinthig -- but it is not the Khandro Nyinthig which is only two volumes long and between the Khandro Nyinthig and Yanthig, there is only one empowerment composed by Longchenpa based on teh root texts of the Khandro Nyinthig.
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Ah, that seems possible.Namdrol wrote:In my edition, (1999, 2001) it is 2.8.6.
I suspect that these initiations are the ones that render one suitable to continue in Santi Mahasangha.
Haha there is nothing at all to apologize for, I just thought it'd be nice if these events were more widely advertised. This forum certainly helps.Mariusz wrote: I will inform you next time, sorry
edit: BTW Mariusz, do you know how the Kunzang Gongdu empowerment that Gangteng Rinpoche will give in France this year is related to those he gave in Poland?
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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