username wrote:The mandala people of Jigmed Phuntsok and Achuk would be very stupid to pull such a stunt, placing a doll, as it would be very self destructive to the dharma and they are not morons to do that.
Also, number one, I did not suggest there is in truth a doll inside the lama clothes lol. Instead of "doll," I could have said "a mound of dough" or a "pile of tomatoes" or a "flux capacitor, taken from Marty's Delorean." What I meant was that from the POV of one who cannot know for himself what is underneath the brocade, there could be anything under there.
Number two, I am sure that the individuals making up the mandala of disciples of these masters are outstanding practitioners and fine human beings and probably wouldn't do anything inappropriate. But, I don't know them from Adam, personally. And disciples of other great masters at times throughout Tibetan history have done things on a grand scale that are destructive to the Dharma, even though in some cases they had little choice due to circumstances or their decisions were just not well thought out.
Think fake tulku enthronement or the Buddhification and worship of fickle and destructive worldly spirits, or being too attached to one's master's dissolving body while he's attaining rainbow body and going against his words and cremating what's left of it so fellow disciples can have some relics to help them deal with the physical loss. Or also think about a great Dzogchen master who explicitly told his disciples that he wouldn't be starting a tulku line and so not to snatch up some innocent boy and claim that he's his tulku, yet they go an do just that after he's died. So, as you can see, whether down right corrupt and destructive or just well-intended but misguided, disciples of great masters have been no strangers to things that in the end are destructive to the Dharma - or at least people's faith in it.
Now I am not here claiming, nor have I claimed previously, that anyone connected to Khenpos JigPhun or Achuk actually have done any such things or would do them... I'm just illustrating the point that an intelligent person cannot just naively believe every extraordinary claim made to him by people he doesn't know from Adam, even if unbeknownst to him those people are truly like the Buddha himself.