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Postby Dharmaswede » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:12 pm

I am looking for good sources on information on Tibetan demonology. (I here use the term "demon" in the widest sense; including the four demons of Dharma, the four Demons of chö, rudras etc. etc.)

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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby Tara » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:37 pm

Hi Dharmaswede,

Duplicate topic has been deleted.

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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby Silent Bob » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:13 pm

Dharmaswede wrote:I am looking for good sources on information on Tibetan demonology. (I here use the term "demon" in the widest sense; including the four demons of Dharma, the four Demons of chö, rudras etc. etc.)

Thank you.

Best Regards,

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"Machik's Complete Explanation" is full of descriptions of such beings.
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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby Malcolm » Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:40 am

Dharmaswede wrote:I am looking for good sources on information on Tibetan demonology. (I here use the term "demon" in the widest sense; including the four demons of Dharma, the four Demons of chö, rudras etc. etc.)

Thank you.

Best Regards,

Jens



the book "Gods and Demons of Tibet".
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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby Adamantine » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:42 am

Also the famous text The 100,000 Songs of Milarepa has quite a variety of demons showing up here and there. . .and portrays Milarepa's experience of the demons, illustrating how an advanced practitioner may encounter these forces .
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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:00 pm

Dharmaswede wrote:I am looking for good sources on information on Tibetan demonology. (I here use the term "demon" in the widest sense; including the four demons of Dharma, the four Demons of chö, rudras etc. etc.)

Scuse me for being nosy, but, why?
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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby Heruka » Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:41 pm

oracles and demons of tibet, by rene de nebesky and wojkowitz
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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby Malcolm » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:20 pm

Heruka wrote:oracles and demons of tibet, by rene de nebesky and wojkowitz



right.
http://www.bhaisajya.net
http://www.bhaisajya.guru
http://atikosha.org
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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby Dharmaswede » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:08 pm

gregkavarnos wrote:
Scuse me for being nosy, but, why?


Many reasons, but at this point mainly because I have an interest in Machik's teachings – and I think it is then pertinent to mull over what the terms demons and demonic denotate. Furthermore, as an absolute beginner I find it intriguing that there is not consensus among some senior Western practitioners as to whether demons are conventionally real, i.e. 'real' entities, or not.

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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby Malcolm » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:28 pm

Dharmaswede wrote:
gregkavarnos wrote:
Scuse me for being nosy, but, why?


Many reasons, but at this point mainly because I have an interest in Machik's teachings – and I think it is then pertinent to mull over what the terms demons and demonic denotate. Furthermore, as an absolute beginner I find it intriguing that there is not consensus among some senior Western practitioners as to whether demons are conventionally real, i.e. 'real' entities, or not.

Best Regards,

Jens


This is because those that negate the conventional existence of the genii locorum in general are not understanding how the six realms actually function.

For the most part, the experiential realm of gods and demons is the same as ours, but it is cognitively closed to most human beings.

Those people who negate the existence of such non-human beings completely are like ants on a leaf arguing about whether humans exist or not.

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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby conebeckham » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:12 am

Ha! That's funny.

Actually, you won't get consensus about whether ANYTHING or ANYONE exists conventionally or not, so demons are just another example.

:smile:

I'm just clowning a bit.
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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby orgyen jigmed » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:59 pm

Namdrol wrote:
Dharmaswede wrote:I am looking for good sources on information on Tibetan demonology. (I here use the term "demon" in the widest sense; including the four demons of Dharma, the four Demons of chö, rudras etc. etc.)

Thank you.

Best Regards,

Jens



the book "Gods and Demons of Tibet".


Can anyone provide me with the author's and publisher's name of "Gods and Demons of Tibet" ?
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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby conebeckham » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:15 pm

someone did provide author's name....already.

rene de nebesky and wojkowitz
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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby orgyen jigmed » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:32 pm

conebeckham wrote:someone did provide author's name....already.

rene de nebesky and wojkowitz


So it can be assumed that Namdrol was refering to the classic book: 'Oracles and Demons of Tibet'. Sorry for my misunderstanding...
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Re: Looking for info on Tibetan demonology

Postby conebeckham » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:02 am

No prob, and yes, that's the actual title. "Oracles," not "Gods," that is....
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