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Nirvana...

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:18 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Postby cooran » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:39 pm

Hello Retro, all,

I was driving home from a day of sutta study and meditation last night and turned the radio on just in time to hear the first note of Hallelujah, by Jeff Buckley.

Had prickly shivers all over and tears in my eyes. Now ... why do I rarely get that from meditation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AratTMGrHaQ

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Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:42 pm

Greetings Chris,

My friend at work is a huge Leonard Cohen fan. When he saw that Jeff Buckley's version of this song came in at #3, he had to put on the Leonard Cohen original on his MP3 player the cleanse the thought from his mind!

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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Postby tiltbillings » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:45 pm

(((Groan))))

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Postby Perry » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:46 pm

I've never understood why most music fans seem to have an obsession with ranking everything in lists, they must have ONE best song, ONE favourite band, ONE greatest album. Maybe I'm generalising a little but I wish a lot of these people would wake up and realise you don't have to limit yourself like that! If you like something, great, if not, oh well.

I used to be like this myself. I have been a huge fan of Queen even from childhood but in recent years have become quite the fan of The Beatles too, and I spent many a night wondering who I preferred. Now, I don't care, I love both bands, and that's that.

On another note, I've never been a fan of Nirvana, but the 1960s British band of the same name was even worse.

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Postby Individual » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:01 am

The list seems pretty terrible and I don't take it seriously, since it was simply generated by voters. Systems of voting like this have demonstrated what could be called the "Stephen Colbert effect". Mobs of fanboys surrounding a specific subject will skew the results through working together.

Of the top 10 list, the only song that belongs on there is Stairway to Heaven. Most of the rest are good, but not good enough to be where they are.

Lists like this are subject to so much speculation and personal preference. For a fairer comparison, I think it's best to look at Billboard's charts, from year to year, both their hot 100 and their ranks for specific genres.
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The best things in life aren't things.


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Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:10 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Postby Guy » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:42 am

I used to play covers of RHCP, RATM, Nirvana when I was younger and stupider than I am now - so naturally I no longer like this kind of music.
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Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:55 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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The best things in life aren't things.


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Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:36 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Nirvana...

Postby Ben » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:35 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

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in mountain clefts and chasms,
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Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:58 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Nirvana...

Postby davcuts » Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:06 am

I may have looked too quickly, but I didn't see any women artist on the entire list. What's up with that?

My favorite on the list is Blue Monday by New Order. I see this list comes from Austrialia. I have a feeling an American top 100 would be different. Like for instance Love Will Tear Us Apart by Joy Division. It's a great song but I would say a good majority of Americans have never even heard it before. It was not a hit. It didn't even make the charts. I bet Nirvana would also be voted #1 in the US. I like Nirvana which is odd for me. I usually dig synth-pop, but Nirvana is great. I can't say the same for groups like Pearl Jam and Creed. They are awful, and highly over rated.

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Postby cooran » Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:14 am

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