Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Shemmy » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:42 am

Big up to Lhasa :twothumbsup: for the confirmation on Lama Garchen's take on the streamcasting and the photo as well, very inspiring! :bow:
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:47 am

i have never participated in a Drubchen but i think its some benefit if you chant the mantra non stop for the duration of the drubchen even if you do it at your home, just sent a mental body to the drubchen center and leave it there and chant the mantra or something...
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Shemmy » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:11 pm

Hopefully they will give us some suggestions for what to do if we want to continue participating.

I was thinking I would do the sadhana repeatedly for the duration of the drubchen.

I guess we'll just have to respond to the situation when it arrives, should be a great boost for all whatever happens.
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:41 pm

i think that in drubchen you are suppose to chant the mantra 24 hours a day for the duration of the Drubchen but im not 100% sure.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby kirtu » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:53 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:i think that in drubchen you are suppose to chant the mantra 24 hours a day for the duration of the Drubchen but im not 100% sure.


No one individual will chant the mantra 24 hrs a day for the duration. During the drubchen (or great accomplishment ) the mantra will be recited 24 hours a day for the duration but this will be done by many different people in shifts.

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:39 pm

i think i read from the email that i got or from the website that they will recite from 5am to 7 pm and you will get 6 hours of sleep divided into two periods during the Drubchen.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Lhasa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:15 pm

I sent an email and asked them to ask Garchen Rinpoche for instructions on how to participate in the drubchen without the streaming. And I also asked them to try to stream the ending of the drubchen.
If you search on ustream, you can find recorded drubchen practice sessions, with chanting, that you can use to participate at home.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/26935282

Live mantra recording from drubchen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw1kZg9Ogkg
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Shemmy » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:23 pm

Yes! You duh man Lhasa! Or duh lady, as the case may be...
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Re: Garchen giving Refuge Vows webcast

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:44 pm

Lhasa wrote:Email from Garchen Institute

Hello Everyone,

In response to your requests it will be possible to receive Refuge Vows from H.E. Garchen Rinpoche by streaming when he gives the vows this Sunday. The ceremony will be streamed at 1:00 pm Mountain Standard Time, November 17, on the Ustream channel for the Vajrakilaya events: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/vajrakila ... hings-2013

To receive the vows from Rinpoche via streaming, he asks that you send the following to Garchen Institute:

1. a short clipping of a few strands of your hair cut close to the scalp—the clipping should be about 1/2-inch long, or shorter if your hair is not that long
2. a small picture of yourself
3. your name and mailing address

Mail to:
Refuge Vows
Garchen Institute
PO Box 4318
Chino Valley, AZ 86323

In return, you will receive a card with your refuge name and blessings from the ceremony.

Emaho! May all be auspicious!


does refuge vow mean the 5 lay vow's?
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:48 pm

oh i almost forgot that the first teaching and the empowerment is today. the empowerment will happen around midnight at my time :idea:
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Garchen giving Refuge Vows webcast

Postby Lhasa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:57 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:
Lhasa wrote:Email from Garchen Institute

Hello Everyone,

In response to your requests it will be possible to receive Refuge Vows from H.E. Garchen Rinpoche by streaming when he gives the vows this Sunday. The ceremony will be streamed at 1:00 pm Mountain Standard Time, November 17, on the Ustream channel for the Vajrakilaya events: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/vajrakila ... hings-2013

To receive the vows from Rinpoche via streaming, he asks that you send the following to Garchen Institute:

1. a short clipping of a few strands of your hair cut close to the scalp—the clipping should be about 1/2-inch long, or shorter if your hair is not that long
2. a small picture of yourself
3. your name and mailing address

Mail to:
Refuge Vows
Garchen Institute
PO Box 4318
Chino Valley, AZ 86323

In return, you will receive a card with your refuge name and blessings from the ceremony.

Emaho! May all be auspicious!


does refuge vow mean the 5 lay vow's?


I don't know.
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:02 pm

maybe its the vow to take refuge in the triple gem, and does not include the lay vow's. i think it has to be the vow to take refuge and not the lay vow's.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:04 pm

eeh, i have already taken refuge once and the second time when i took some of the lay vow's i took re refuge and now i want to take refuge with Garchen Rinpoche. but i dont know if i will.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Garchen giving Refuge Vows webcast

Postby heart » Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:42 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:
does refuge vow mean the 5 lay vow's?


No, that is a separate ceremony.

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Re: Garchen giving Refuge Vows webcast

Postby Malcolm » Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:49 pm

heart wrote:
KonchokZoepa wrote:
does refuge vow mean the 5 lay vow's?


No, that is a separate ceremony.

/magnus



Refuge indeed confers the five lay vows, but magnus is also correct in that there is a separate pratimoksha ordination which is classified as Hinayāna, usually given to those who plan on becoming monks or nuns. In general, when Tibetan lamas give refuge, they are doing so from a Mahāyāna system.
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Lhasa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:05 pm

Email instructions for drubchen at home from Garchen Institute.


"Rinpoche has always said the easiest way to participate in our drubchens
from afar is to recite the deity's mantra as much as you can each day.
Vajrakilaya's mantra is:

OM BENZAR KILI KILAYA SARWA BIGNEN BAM HUNG PHAT

We do six sessions a day, each of which is opened with the first part of the
sadhana up to the point where the mantra is recited, then the mantra is
recited for the rest of the session until near the end, and then the rest of
the sadhana is recited. This can also be done at home. The six session times
here are: (note: the mantra is recited during any of the time not accounted
for in the schedule)
9 am - noon
2 - 5 pm
7-9 pm
9 pm - 1 am
1 - 5 am
5 - 9 am

The sadhana is available through our Webstore at:

http://www.garchen.net/GBI-Shop/index.p ... Path=4_26&
products_id=656&zenid=c4fd3a6c79f3fc6eb502a8b633ddbf3d

We don't know if the ending session can be streamed, but are glad to make
the request.

Many blessings,"
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:06 pm

Garchen Rinpoche's first teaching today was amazing :heart:
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:09 pm

Hats off to the translator! Fantastic job! :twothumbsup:
"When one is not in accord with the true view
Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:55 pm

does someone remember what we were adviced to contemplate on our break. i cant remember exactly due to my seemingly bad memory or for the reason that i jumped straight to unmindfulness for a moment after the teaching session..
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby dzogchungpa » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:16 pm

Sherab Dorje wrote:Hats off to the translator! Fantastic job! :twothumbsup:

Ina is really great:
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