Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Sherab Dorje » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:46 am

itself is nirvana. On the relative level, the compassion, loving-kindness, and
wisdom of Vajrakilaya and realized beings are always with samsara. The
crocodile mouth symbolizes the compassion of the bodhisattvas and realized
beings; they never release themselves from samsara, and they never
leave others behind. The crocodile mouth symbolizes compassion as the
connecting point between nirvana and samsara.
The area below the handle symbolizes the three realms: the highest
and most expansive is the realm of the formless gods, next is the realm of
the gods of form, and lowest and smallest is the desire realm, which contains
both gods and humans. The human area is smaller than the gods’
area. The higher the realm, the more expansive it is. This also applies to
the phurba state.
The way to transform the deluded state of samsara into the undeluded
state of nirvana is symbolized by the three blades of the dagger. The threesided
dagger has many symbolic meanings. For instance, the nature of
samsara is none other than the pure land of the three kayas. By understanding
the supreme nature of Vajrakilaya, the three realms can be transmuted
into the three kayas.
In terms of the view, the three blades symbolize the qualities of the
three doors of liberation: not having characteristics, being beyond expectations,
and having the nature of emptiness. This is the basic view of the continuous
supreme awareness. The cause or basis has no characteristics, and
the fruition or result is beyond expectations, so their identity or nature is
emptiness. As they are without characteristics or expectations, cause and
effect are both within emptiness. The entire universe is always based on
great emptiness.
The three blades also symbolize the way to perform activities. When
the phurba is used, it is always handled as an act of compassion. There are
three types of compassion: compassion that focuses on sentient beings,
compassion that focuses on the ignorance of sentient beings, and compassion
with no focus or reference point—which can also be viewed as
loving-kindness, compassion, and bodhichitta. Guru Padma sambhava
taught that loving-kindness, compassion, and bodhichitta are the mind of

the buddhas. Bodhichitta is free from delusion, but deluded beings like us
can use bodhichitta to invoke supreme wisdom.
Every aspect of this symbolism is meant to show us that samsara and
nirvana are one single state. There is not one part to reject and another part
to accept. In the Mahayana sutras, Buddha Shakyamuni taught the importance
of realizing the equality of samsara and nirvana. The Buddha
Maitreya summarized this in the Abhisamayalamkara (Ornament of Vivid
Realization)57 by stating that samsara and nirvana are totally equal. And in
terms of the pith instructions, the great master Saraha sang in one of his
songs, “Samsara and nirvana are equal. That is Mahamudra, the great seal.”
Whenever you see a symbolic substantial phurba, it is a reminder of
your view, your meditation, and your realization, not just an interesting
piece of sculpture.
In the tantras, the symbolic substantial phurba is commonly called the
tsenma dze kyi phurba. But some tantras also refer to the substantial
phurba as the sipa phurba. Sipa means “possible” or “existence.” The sipa
phurba is the phurba of all possible existence. It has also been translated as
“cosmic phurba.”
The phurba teachings are very vast, profound, and secret, and have
many divisions. Although Vajrakilaya is wrathful, the existing phurba or
sipa phurba can be used for different activities. There are four main types
of activity: pacifying, increasing or enriching, magnetizing or overpowering,
and subjugating. Sometimes phurbas are particularly dedicated to
accomplishing the pacifying activity. These phurbas are usually white in
color, and made of conch shell, crystal, or silver. Phurbas used specifically
for increasing are yellow in color and made of metals such as gold. Red
phurbas, which are used for magnetizing or overpowering, are made of
copper or other red metals. Phurbas used for the purpose of subjugation
are dark and made of a meteorite or iron, or very hard wood from thorny
trees. Phurbas have various styles, materials, and purposes.
Substantial symbolic phurbas have specific measurements according
to their different purposes. The measurements are based on the width of
the fingers. They are two fingers long, four fingers long, six fingers long,

and so on, up to sixteen fingers long. Each size has different purposes
and different instructions.
Some substantial symbolic phurbas were discovered as terma objects.
Most of these phurbas are made of meteorite, and when you look at the
terma phurbas, you can see fabric imprints and fingerprints on them.
History says that Guru Padma sambhava asked the dharmapala Dorje
Legpa (Vajrasadhu in Sanskrit) to make these phurbas for him. Dorje
Legpa was a famous blacksmith. Guru Padma sambhava wanted them to be
made very quickly, so these phurbas are rather rough. When Dorje Legpa
made them, he pounded them on his thigh. He was wearing a woolen
chuba, and you can see the fabric patterns from his chuba on the phurbas.
As soon as he finished the phurbas, he gave them to Guru Rinpoche, who
would hold them and bless each of them. The fingerprints seen on these
phurbas are those of Guru Padma sambhava.
The terma phurbas are very famous and very blessed. It is known that
if you keep one on your body it will protect you from obstacles, even
from bullets. This is not just a fairy tale. People experienced this when the
Chinese Communists invaded Tibet, and this happened previously many
times as well.
Meditation on oneself as Vajrakilaya is also the tsenma dze kyi phurba.
All these aspects are included in the substantial symbolic phurba.
Khenchen Palden Sherab and Khenpo Tsewang Dongyal Rinpoche The Dark Red Amulet p109-113
"When one is not in accord with the true view
Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
Naropa - Summary of the View from The Eight Doha Treasures
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby lelopa » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:28 pm

Sherab Dorje wrote:I found this explanation by the Khenpo brothers interesting and decided to post it here for discussion:
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:?: i do not understand what to discuss & why :?:
I do not have any solutions - but i admire the problems!
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby michaelb » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:05 pm

lelopa wrote:
Sherab Dorje wrote:I found this explanation by the Khenpo brothers interesting and decided to post it here for discussion:
...........................................


:?: i do not understand what to discuss & why :?:
still interesting and good to read. thanks for posting, Greg.
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Stewart » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:58 am

Thanks Greg,

I've seen and touched one of these Phurbas, (the late) Akong Rinpoche owned a Dorje and Phurba that was revealed as a Terma by Rigdzin Jatson Nyingpo, who revealed Konchog Chidu, it was quite rough and made of 'Sky Iron'.

My friend who was Akong Rinpoche's assistant for many years told me in all the years he travelled with AR, it never once set off a metal detector in an airport.

The same friend was with Rinpoche in London about 10 years ago, they was invited to view a collection of Tibetan artifacts 'acquired' over many years of expiditions to Tibet by the British. Among them were several Phurbas, AR told my friend privately that at least 2 of them were from revealed Termas.
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby heart » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:56 am

CNR have at least one phurbha revealed by Chokgyur Lingpa, getting touched by it can be quite awesome even if you have no idea what it is.

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Stewart » Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:59 pm

Yes Magnus, special indeed...

Akong Rinpoche used to bless us with it when he gave the Konchog Chidu Wang each year at the Drupchen at Samye Ling. He also had a 'Regent' statue of Guru Rinpoche, he gave us blessings with...not sure who revealed it.
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby pema tsultrim » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:49 am

Hi all,

I know this is an older post, but I just saw it so maybe this is helpful, maybe not.There are also at least two other commentaries in English for the RatLing Phurba sadhana. Published through wisdom and/or snowlion/shambhala I believe. One is by Khenchen Namdrol of Namdroling Monastery. One more recent commentary I think is by the Khenpo Brothers Palden Sherab and Tsewang Dongyal Rinpoche. Then there is also a Ratling Phurba commentary that is by H.E. Dhomang Yangthang Tulku Rinpoche and Gyatrul Rinpoche together I believe. This one should be available through Vimala Treasures (Yeshe Nyingpo and Gyatrul Rinpoche's publishing branch). There are also DVDs available of Yangthang Rinpoche and Gyatrul Rinpoche performing the sadhana with instruments at Tashi Choling during Yangthang Rinpoche's first US visit.

The Sadhana translation from the Palyul centers shouldn't be too difficult to track down. It's in their daily practice books and it's performed daily during their Upstate NY retreats every summer. I have a copy. If you received the wang and need it, PM me.

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Reibeam » Fri May 16, 2014 12:28 am

lelopa wrote:
heart wrote:Garchen Rinpoche used to give an anuyoga Purbha from the Chokling Tersar the one from Ratna Lingpa that he is giving now is considered a very major Vajrakilaya terma. Vajrakilaya is of the vajra family at least in the sadhana I did many years because Aksobhya is sitting inside his topknot.

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in my practice-text of RatLings Terma it is Amoghasiddhi

there are a few essential Phurpa-sadhanas fe:. Chokyur Lingpa (very short SangThig) Adzom Drugpa as given by ChNN, Ganor Rinpoche, Dudjom Lingpa, etc....
but in some others the main mantra is a little different


Is there a name for the Phurba Sadhana from Adzom Drugpa? chNN transmitted the mantra in the last retreat and made a reference to using it with the practice from the Adzom Drugpa terma as well as a few others. Is there a specific text chNN uses or a sadhana or is it done in the same way as many of the other secondary practices? Feel free to PM me if needed.

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby heart » Fri May 16, 2014 8:34 am

Reibeam wrote:
Is there a name for the Phurba Sadhana from Adzom Drugpa? chNN transmitted the mantra in the last retreat and made a reference to using it with the practice from the Adzom Drugpa terma as well as a few others. Is there a specific text chNN uses or a sadhana or is it done in the same way as many of the other secondary practices? Feel free to PM me if needed.

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There are special sadhana's for all mantras ChNNR transmit. However he only transmit the sadhana, clearly explaining the lineage, when he give a proper retreat on a particular deity. It seems he don't consider it important to recite the sadhana itself, which is why he normally only transmit the mantra. There are some exceptions, like the Mandarava sadhana. However he haven't done a Phurba retreat recently to the best of my knowledge, so all we have is the mantra.

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby ratna » Fri May 16, 2014 8:44 am

Reibeam wrote:Is there a name for the Phurba Sadhana from Adzom Drugpa? chNN transmitted the mantra in the last retreat and made a reference to using it with the practice from the Adzom Drugpa terma as well as a few others. Is there a specific text chNN uses or a sadhana or is it done in the same way as many of the other secondary practices? Feel free to PM me if needed.

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There most likely is a corresponding sadhana (and I don't know of any translation). But when I received this from ChNN, the instruction was just to transform with the seed syllable and then recite the mantra, i.e. the same way as in the Thun.

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Reibeam » Fri May 16, 2014 1:08 pm

ratna wrote:
Reibeam wrote:Is there a name for the Phurba Sadhana from Adzom Drugpa? chNN transmitted the mantra in the last retreat and made a reference to using it with the practice from the Adzom Drugpa terma as well as a few others. Is there a specific text chNN uses or a sadhana or is it done in the same way as many of the other secondary practices? Feel free to PM me if needed.

Thanks


There most likely is a corresponding sadhana (and I don't know of any translation). But when I received this from ChNN, the instruction was just to transform with the seed syllable and then recite the mantra, i.e. the same way as in the Thun.

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby dzoki » Fri May 16, 2014 2:22 pm

Reibeam wrote:
ratna wrote:
Reibeam wrote:Is there a name for the Phurba Sadhana from Adzom Drugpa? chNN transmitted the mantra in the last retreat and made a reference to using it with the practice from the Adzom Drugpa terma as well as a few others. Is there a specific text chNN uses or a sadhana or is it done in the same way as many of the other secondary practices? Feel free to PM me if needed.

Thanks


There most likely is a corresponding sadhana (and I don't know of any translation). But when I received this from ChNN, the instruction was just to transform with the seed syllable and then recite the mantra, i.e. the same way as in the Thun.

R

Thanks Ratna


Sooner or later the Sungbum of Adzom Drugpa will be released on TBRC. They already have it, but have not uploaded it yet. It was published in 2013 and it is an input text, so it will be nice and clear, huraaay.
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby lelopa » Fri May 16, 2014 3:04 pm

there is an old booklet with some practices of adzom drugpa.
the vajrakilaya-practice only describes (in tibetan) how the deity looks like & that it has a hung in the heart spreading & receiving lights etc.
and the mantras... that`s all!
you may use this form of vajrakila instead that of guru dragphur in the thun.
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Reibeam » Sat May 31, 2014 7:56 pm

lelopa wrote:there is an old booklet with some practices of adzom drugpa.
the vajrakilaya-practice only describes (in tibetan) how the deity looks like & that it has a hung in the heart spreading & receiving lights etc.
and the mantras... that`s all!
you may use this form of vajrakila instead that of guru dragphur in the thun.



Hey Lelopa,

chnnr gave the Adzom Drugpa Kilaya transmission again this morning, giving more instruction and the mantras. The last mantra he gave was the long action mantra (sometimes called the razor mantra). I recognized about 90% of it, but was not sure about the last few syllables. Could you PM me the action mantra from booklet if you have it please? There are a lot of variations.......Ratna lingpa, Pema Lingpa, Dudjom Rinpoche, and Garchen Rinpoche all use different versions (usually the part that is appended at the end is unique)

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