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Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:29 am
by Palzang Jangchub
Below is the only photo reportedly in existence of Dza Patrul Rinpoche (1808 - 1887). May it serve to liberate upon sight! A Bodhisattva, Patrul Rinpoche is best known as the author of Words of My Perfect Teacher --- the consummate commentary on the Longchen Nyingthik and an exemplary text lauded by all schools of Vajrayana.

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An incarnate lama who chose the life of a wandering beggar rather than being pinned down as the abbot of the monastery he traditionally led, Patrul Rinpoche would often teach others not to judge a book by its cover. People would treat him a certain way, thinking him a lowly person, only to find out later that he was the visiting lama who had come to give teachings.

In this way he emulated the great sage and Mahasiddha Shantideva, whose reincarnation many believed him to be. Patrul Rinpoche's only possession other than the clothes on his back was his copy of Shantideva's magnum opus, the Guide to Entering the Bodhisattva's Path, and it was his widespread teaching of this text wherever he went which is credited for the Bodhicharyavatara being so well known amongst Tibetans.

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Photo courtesy of the Kyabje Akong Tulku Rinpoche page on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/AkongTulku

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:37 am
by Norwegian
From Rigpa Wiki:

"Several websites feature a photograph purported to be of Patrul Rinpoche, but according to Orgyen Tobgyal Rinpoche when this same photo was shown to Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche he said that it is not Patrul Rinpoche himself, but one of his incarnations."

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:44 am
by Palzang Jangchub
Norwegian wrote:From Rigpa Wiki:

"Several websites feature a photograph purported to be of Patrul Rinpoche, but according to Orgyen Tobgyal Rinpoche when this same photo was shown to Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche he said that it is not Patrul Rinpoche himself, but one of his incarnations."
Oy. Thank you for pointing this out. Wasn't sure it was the same photo in question, as this one was only posted 2 hours ago. Looking at the entry on Rigpa Wiki, it's certainly the same photo in question.

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Maybe we can turn this thread into an investigation of who the photo is really of? Perhaps Khenpo Kunpal?

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:11 am
by Adamantine
Are there drawings or paintings of Patrul Rinpoche we can refer to? I don't know why, I've always had an image of him in my mind's eye and when I saw this photo it didn't seem to fit. . wonder if my mental vision would accord with any representations of the original Patrul if they exist.

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:15 am
by Lindama
Adamantine wrote:Are there drawings or paintings of Patrul Rinpoche we can refer to? I don't know why, I've always had an image of him in my mind's eye and when I saw this photo it didn't seem to fit. . wonder if my mental vision would accord with any representations of the original Patrul if they exist.
fwiw, trust your image

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:16 am
by KonchokZoepa
actually the Shantidevas work was already very known in tibet in 3-4 centuries before Patrul Rinpoche but 3-4 centuries before Patrul Rinpoche the Shantidevas work became almost extinct in tibet, it was very rare to study it and it was found only in few monasteries. And what Patrul Rinpoche accomplished was to make the Shantidevas work re flourish in tibet, he brought it back to life.

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:52 am
by Palzang Jangchub
KonchokZoepa wrote:actually the Shantidevas work was already very known in tibet in 3-4 centuries before Patrul Rinpoche but 3-4 centuries before Patrul Rinpoche the Shantidevas work became almost extinct in tibet, it was very rare to study it and it was found only in few monasteries. And what Patrul Rinpoche accomplished was to make the Shantidevas work re flourish in tibet, he brought it back to life.
I wasn't trying to say that the text wasn't known at all. The truth is far from that. In fact, the text was authored around the same time Buddhism was first entering Tibet in any real way via Guru Rinpoche, Shantarakshita, their disciples and the first great translators.
Padmakara Translation Group wrote:According to tradition, The Way of the Bodhisattva was first translated into Tibetan in the eighth century by the Indian master Sarvajñadeva and the Tibetan translator Kawa Peltsek, using a manuscript from Kashmir. It was later reworked during the eleventh century by the pandita Dharmashribhadra and the translator Rinchen Zangpo, on the basis of a manuscript and commentary from Magadha. A final revision was made by the pandita Sumatakirti and the translator Ngok Loden Sherab.
Based on that, the Bodhicharyavatara may well have been one of the first shastras translated into the Tibetan canon.

What I meant to say was that Patrul Rinpoche made knowledge of it widespread (i.e. giving teachings to people from all different walks of life, not just monastics). The Bodhicharyavatara was most assuredly well-known to monastics who had entered shedra (monastic college). It is, to this day, one of the first texts studied in shedras of all schools of Vajrayana. But beyond that sphere, it was likely not known to the "average" Tibetan layperson before Patrul Rinpoche's work in bringing it to the masses.

As you said, in Patrul Rinpoche's time there was a danger of certain texts gathering dust or their memories and oral traditions being lost altogether.
[...] at a time when many essential teachings were falling into disuse and unfamiliarity, Patrul Rinpoche taught the Bodhicharyavatara so often that he inspired most of the commentaries on it in the second half of the nineteenth and the beginning of the twentieth centuries. Thanks to him, Shantideva's work became one of the texts most studied and practiced in the whole of eastern Tibet.

~ "The Text and the Translation," The Way of the Bodhisattva

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:07 am
by KonchokZoepa
true that :reading:

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:03 pm
by yegyal
there's also this one that has been floating around for years.

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:59 pm
by Nicholas Weeks
yegyal wrote:there's also this one that has been floating around for years.
What does the Tibetan caption say?

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:05 pm
by JKhedrup
Paltrul Jigme Chokyi Wangpo la Namo.

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:09 pm
by Norwegian

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:17 pm
by Palzang Jangchub
In other words, "Homage to the Palge Incarnation (Patrul), Fearless and Powerful Dharma (Jigme Chökyi Wangpo)!"

See: http://www.treasuryoflives.org/biograph ... angpo/4425

Can anyone parse or translate the Chinese under the OP image?

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:50 pm
by Nicholas Weeks
Karma Jinpa wrote:In other words, "Homage to the Palge Incarnation (Patrul), Fearless and Powerful Dharma (Jigme Chökyi Wangpo)!"

See: http://www.treasuryoflives.org/biograph ... angpo/4425

Can anyone parse or translate the Chinese under the OP image?
Here is a quick look by Ven. Bhikshu Dharmamitra:

The big caption: The great completely fulfilled and perfectly realized one: Something-Wisdom Rimpoche. The small letters a little too small to read, say something like Serene Heaven Bodhisattva, the great completely realized one, summer tiles heat, something about being avalokiteshvara number three for the sake of benefitting beings, thus manifesting, that particular kalyana-mitra, i.e. "Good Spritual Guide", his image, exclamation point...
It was alternate character. Something-Wisdom Rimpoche is "Flower-Wisdom" Rinpoche, but it also could just as easily be translated as "Chinese Wisdom" rimpoche, which might make sense as a nickname cuz he totally looks chinese, not tibetan...

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:22 am
by Adamantine
yegyal wrote:there's also this one that has been floating around for years.
According to Rigpawiki this photo is:

Tsö Patrul Rinpoche aka Patrul Rinpoche Kunzang Shenpen Özer of Tsö (twentieth century) — a student of Adzom Drukpa and an immediate reincarnation of Patrul Rinpoche, born near Repkong in Tsö, Amdo. He was born to the niece of Thupten Chökyi Dorje, the great 5th Dzogchen Rinpoche, and recognized and enthroned by that sublime master.

Re: Only Photo of Patrul Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:15 am
by eijo
Will wrote: It was alternate character. Something-Wisdom Rimpoche is "Flower-Wisdom" Rinpoche, but it also could just as easily be translated as "Chinese Wisdom" rimpoche, which might make sense as a nickname cuz he totally looks chinese, not tibetan...

The Chinese caption identifies him as 华智仁波切, Patrul Rinpoche.