Chime Phagme Nyingtig iconography

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Postby Nilasarasvati » Tue May 07, 2013 8:17 pm

I'm looking for some clarification: is it accurate that the CPN mandala/visualization has White Tara actually facing us and Amitayus in her lap with his back to us? If so is there any other yabyum where this is the case? It seems like a huge (and refreshing) difference.
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Re: Chime Phagme Nyingtig iconography

Postby heart » Tue May 07, 2013 8:27 pm

Nilasarasvati wrote:I'm looking for some clarification: is it accurate that the CPN mandala/visualization has White Tara actually facing us and Amitayus in her lap with his back to us? If so is there any other yabyum where this is the case? It seems like a huge (and refreshing) difference.


Yes, in the Zabtig Drolma from the Chokling Tersar.

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Re: Chime Phagme Nyingtig iconography

Postby Nilasarasvati » Tue May 07, 2013 9:02 pm

In the Zabtig Drolma green tara is in yabyum??
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Re: Chime Phagme Nyingtig iconography

Postby dzogchungpa » Tue May 07, 2013 9:39 pm

Nilasarasvati wrote:In the Zabtig Drolma green tara is in yabyum??

You can read about it in "Skillful Grace", p.155:
http://tinyurl.com/bpkdr7o
I just noticed this interesting quotation from that book, p.181:
This Tara practice is endowed with incredible blessings. The present
Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche told me that he considers this Tara
practice as the most profound of all Chokgyur Lingpa's termas. In
Bhutan, he personally sponsors it to be done one hundred thousand
times annually. - Orgyen Tobgyal Rinpoche, unpublished teaching,
2002.
ཨོཾ་མ་ཧཱ་ཤུནྱ་ཏཱ་ཛྙཱ་ན་བཛྲ་སྭཱ་བྷཱ་བ་ཨཱཏྨ་ཀོ་྅ཧཾ༔

The thousands of lines of the Prajnaparamita can be summed up in the following two sentences:
1) One should become a Bodhisattva (or, Buddha-to-be), i.e. one who is content with nothing less than all-knowledge attained through the perfection of wisdom for the sake of all beings.
2) There is no such thing as a Bodhisattva, or as all-knowledge, or as a ‘being’, or as the perfection of wisdom, or as an attainment.
To accept both these contradictory facts is to be perfect.
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Re: Chime Phagme Nyingtig iconography

Postby conebeckham » Tue May 07, 2013 10:26 pm

Most people think of Zabtik Drolma as the "Four Mandala Offering" with the 21 praises. That's the "Outer Practice."

Magnus is referring to a less-commonly known level of the practice. There are "Inner" and "Secret" practices.
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Re: Chime Phagme Nyingtig iconography

Postby conebeckham » Tue May 07, 2013 10:53 pm

You know, there's also a practice of "Chakrasamvara and Vajrayogini Reversed" I have read about, somewhere, but I can't recall where. It was in the context of someone having difficulty with the visualization of Chakrasamvara practice, so he was given this particular practice.
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Re: Chime Phagme Nyingtig iconography

Postby Nilasarasvati » Wed May 08, 2013 12:29 am

Thank all of you yogis :applause: this is marvelous. I had no idea.
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Re: Chime Phagme Nyingtig iconography

Postby dakini_boi » Fri May 10, 2013 5:06 pm

Nilasarasvati, check your inbox :smile:
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