FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby RikudouSennin » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:30 pm

futerko wrote:
RikudouSennin wrote:I'm studying, and this question keeps arising
Is GY and SOV all that is required to recognize Dzogchen?

I know there are other/secondary practices, from my understanding the most important are rushan, semdzin and lojongs, and these are important for trechod and thogal practices, if i'm not mistaken which lead to rainbow body.

since my mind is easily distracted, I would like to keep the practices as simple as possible but with full benefit.

i hope I have made myself clear

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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby SuryaMitra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:11 pm

I`m curious how other great lamas perceive ChNN and his style. I heard that there was some criticism from certain teachers. I find Rinpoche`s style wonderful, but somewhat unorthodox in many ways, so I can imagine, that to some lamas it might be just difficult to swallow...

Also in the closed topic about Dzogchen Community, there was someone who mention that XVI Karmapa told some great things about ChNN to Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche. For me, as for one with Karma Kagyu background, it would be great to know what Gyalwa Karmapa said. So please, anybody who knows, share the story...
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby Lhug-Pa » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:22 pm

Lamas who have endorsed Chögyal Namkhai Norbu:

H.H. the Dalai Lama
H.E. Yongdzin Tenzin Namdak
H.H. Sakya Trizin
H.H. the Sixteenth Karmapa
Geshe Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche
Chatral Rinpoche
Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche
Jamyang Khyentse Chökyi Lodro

And others....

Also, see this post:

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4052&p=152156&hilit=+#p152156

Over the years Merigar West has played host to the teachings of some of the most important Masters of the Tibetan spiritual tradition, including His Holiness the Fourteenth Dalai Lama, Penor Rinpoche, Sakya Trizin, Jetsun Chimed Luding, the Twelfth Tai Situpa, the Twelfth Gyalwang Drugpa, Sögyal Rinpoche, Lopön Tenzin Namdak Rinpoche, Drugu Chögyal Rinpoche, Dorzong Rinpoche, Ontul Rinpoche, Ayang Rinpoche, Trogawa Rinpoche and Sey Rinpoche.
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby KonchokZoepa » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:01 pm

is the practice text for the next WWT available somewhere online as pdf?
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby Lhasa » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:37 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:is the practice text for the next WWT available somewhere online as pdf?


http://www.shangshunginstitute.net/webcast/files.php
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby KonchokZoepa » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:51 pm

which one is it? Padmasambhava or Adzom Drugpa?
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby lelopa » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:24 am

afaik the next one will be adzom drugpa
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby futerko » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:18 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:which one is it? Padmasambhava or Adzom Drugpa?


If you look at both you will see that one file has the practice and the other has instructions.
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby Malcolm » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:47 pm

lelopa wrote:afaik the next one will be adzom drugpa



The Padmasambhava and Adzom transmissions are identical in every respect apart from the date.
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby Snovid » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:43 pm

On Thursday, 28.11 falls anniversary of the great Dzogchen master Adzama Drugpy. That day, in the chair. 13:00 Polish time (19:00 am Eastern Time in Tibet) Chogyal Namkhai Norbu provide direct entry into the Natural State.


My almost wife :D wants to participate
Anyone could speak with her before?
I mean,explain her what to do when master will give transmission?
I am from Poland I use google translator I do not know English
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby padma norbu » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:23 pm

I can't remember if I've asked this before, but...

I have read that "you either have transmission or you don't" and "once you receive transmission, you got it. So, don't worry about that. You may not recognize your real nature right away, but you have received transmission and once you get it, you can't lose it. It may take a lifetime to ripen or it may happen instantly."

But, I also commonly hear that it's "good to refresh transmission."

I don't think these statements jibe very well together. What am I misunderstanding? If you never lose a transmission, why "refresh it?"

I used to participate in every transmission for a while, but after I received it 6 or 7 times, I stopped. I believe I've received all 3 transmissions at least twice. I wish I would have been able to receive transmission just once without an explanation so the surprise factor was there during the transmission part. The more I participated in the worldwide transmissions, the less heddawa I felt.
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby futerko » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:50 pm

padma norbu wrote:I wish I would have been able to receive transmission just once without an explanation so the surprise factor was there during the transmission part. The more I participated in the worldwide transmissions, the less heddawa I felt.


Seems like a couple of issues there, firstly with expectations, and secondly with the idea of heddawa, which I think is only a means to gain a glimpse of the nature of mind, not the aim itself.

It can be difficult when you know he is going to shout, and yet I have seen people literally jump several inches off their cushions (maybe their backs weren't straight! lol).

I think you need to achieve a certain state prior to the shout rather than think about what you are supposed to be doing or what is going to happen next.
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby padma norbu » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:34 pm

futerko wrote:
padma norbu wrote:I wish I would have been able to receive transmission just once without an explanation so the surprise factor was there during the transmission part. The more I participated in the worldwide transmissions, the less heddawa I felt.


Seems like a couple of issues there, firstly with expectations, and secondly with the idea of heddawa, which I think is only a means to gain a glimpse of the nature of mind, not the aim itself.

It can be difficult when you know he is going to shout, and yet I have seen people literally jump several inches off their cushions (maybe their backs weren't straight! lol).

I think you need to achieve a certain state prior to the shout rather than think about what you are supposed to be doing or what is going to happen next.


I was pointing to the fact that I developed expectations to begin with based on the explanation beforehand. As far as jumping several inches or even a centimeter, that has never happened to me. And I know it's not the aim itself. I think I would perhaps have been better at catching a glimpse without the explanation. It's like pretending you don't know about a surprise party after someone spilled the beans; hardly the same thing as actually being surprised. For example, I don't think Tilopa told Naropa he was going to hit him with the sandal. It probably would have been a very different experience if he had. I am saying that if it has to be explained or it won't work, fine; but I would have preferred to give it a shot once first without explanation and maybe have it explained to me after.
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby futerko » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:50 pm

padma norbu wrote:I was pointing to the fact that I developed expectations to begin with based on the explanation beforehand. As far as jumping several inches or even a centimeter, that has never happened to me. And I know it's not the aim itself. I think I would perhaps have been better at catching a glimpse without the explanation. It's like pretending you don't know about a surprise party after someone spilled the beans; hardly the same thing as actually being surprised. For example, I don't think Tilopa told Naropa he was going to hit him with the sandal. It probably would have been a very different experience if he had. I am saying that if it has to be explained or it won't work, fine; but I would have preferred to give it a shot once first without explanation and maybe have it explained to me after.


Then, errr... boo and stuff!

You don't really need to be surprised, that is just one way to "stop" thoughts. There are several different types of transmissions given, and yet it may still remain a subtly intellectual view even after transmission. Even Nagarjuna is enough to differentiate "in mind" and "beyond mind" at an intellectual level. Transmission is simply a demonstration of that in action.
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby padma norbu » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:06 pm

futerko wrote:You don't really need to be surprised, that is just one way to "stop" thoughts.
I know.
futerko wrote:There are several different types of transmissions given, and yet it may still remain a subtly intellectual view even after transmission.
ChNN always uses this method for all three WWT, though.
futerko wrote:Even Nagarjuna is enough to differentiate "in mind" and "beyond mind" at an intellectual level.
Did you miss a verb in this sentence? I don't know what "Even Nagarjuna is enough" means unless you meant "Even reading Nagarjuna is enough" or something.
futerko wrote: Transmission is simply a demonstration of that in action
Yes, it's "simply" discovering what can only be pointed out to you by a master. Btw, I'm sure I've received transmission, so there's no problem here. If I wasn't sure, I would probably keep "refreshing" my transmissions, which was pretty much the real question here, in case you missed that. Any reason you can see in "refreshing" the transmission?
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby futerko » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:16 pm

padma norbu wrote:Any reason you can see in "refreshing" the transmission?


I guess that for me it is about practicing together rather than sitting alone in my cave being a solitary realiser, but then I guess it would be different for people who weren't sure if they'd "got it" or not. Sorry, I wasn't sure if that was what you meant earlier.
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby Paul » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:32 pm

As far as I understand it from what I remember Rinpoche saying, whenever we practice with him and other students there is an effect due to everybody being in the same state together. If someone has little experience it can give them something of a 'leg up'.
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby padma norbu » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:57 pm

futerko wrote:
padma norbu wrote:Any reason you can see in "refreshing" the transmission?


I guess that for me it is about practicing together rather than sitting alone in my cave being a solitary realiser, but then I guess it would be different for people who weren't sure if they'd "got it" or not. Sorry, I wasn't sure if that was what you meant earlier.


So, that's for you, but I hear a lot that "it's good to refresh the transmission" and I don't think the people who say this are just referring to practicing together. Maybe it is, like Paul said, supposed to give you a "leg up" by all being in the same state together. It might also be one of those things that Namkhai Norbu doesn't really explain in detail, so people just have this idea that it's good for some reason; if nothing else, practicing together. A lot of people don't have a local gar so "sitting alone in a cave" isn't really an option for them. Practicing together is probably great, if you can do it. Rinpoche always seems to talk in favor of it.
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby RikudouSennin » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:26 am

so i'm working with the text Introduction to the Practice of Contemplation, as well as The Stairway to Liberation, and I have some questions I would like clarified, so please send me a pm if you can be of help. thanks
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Re: FAQ: Dzogchen Community of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

Postby KonchokZoepa » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:09 am

at what time on the 28th is the WWT? is it 14:00 finnish time?

and through what venue will the transmission come through.

shangshunginstitute.com/webcast site ?

also does anyone have a picture of the padmasambhava Nangsi Silnön or how do you pronounce it, the emanation used in this visualization during the transmission.
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