kalden yungdrung wrote:Mr. G wrote:kalden yungdrung wrote:But Dzogchen teachings are Dzogchen teachings and they shouldn' t be changed.
The existence and discovery of new termas is change.
Termas are additional sources to the exisiting Dzogchen sources. They do not change Dzogchen at all, this we can watch if we do compare Dzogchen Teachings, out of different Traditions. Dzogchen = Dzogchen / Rainbow Body = Rainbow Body.
But i am also interested to know from you, in how far "The existence and discovery of new termas is change " ? What is then changed in case we speak of change?
"Change" in the sense that one doesn't need to go through elaborate empowerments or need intellectual study to practice Dzogchen. Or that one must do ngondro first before starting other practices. Or receiving transmission over webcast. "Change" encompasses a lot in terms of methodology over time.[/quote]
Change is in this case not related to termas, if i may conclude that. So did misunderstood that termas is a change.
Are you also convinced about this Change and its consequences in the sense of needless ?
Changing can a be a lot in the future, but Dzogchen did not changed from Zhang Zhung, and that is more than 2500 years ago.
That is also within the Lineage of Garab Dorje / Prahe Vajra the case. The essence will be the same of the Dzogchen Teachings so what is changing outside this , will be then of no impact to the source Teachings. So a change could be these "outside" preliminaries i guess so and maybe other secondary practices. Some agree and some don' t. Its up to the person to make this decission.