Memorization of Dzogchen Tantras/Upadeshas/Texts

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Memorization of Dzogchen Tantras/Upadeshas/Texts

Postby Fa Dao » Wed May 02, 2012 9:43 pm

I can see the benefit in doing this to help develop and clarify ones View/Tawa but I can also see the opposite. Would like to hear others thoughts on this...
"But if you know how to observe yourself, you will discover your real nature, the primordial state, the state of Guruyoga, and then all will become clear because you will have discovered everything"-Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

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Re: Memorization of Dzogchen Tantras/Upadeshas/Texts

Postby Malcolm » Thu May 03, 2012 12:15 am

Fa Dao wrote:I can see the benefit in doing this to help develop and clarify ones View/Tawa but I can also see the opposite. Would like to hear others thoughts on this...



Memorizing a short text like the aspiration of Samantabhadra is only helpful, never harmful.
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Re: Memorization of Dzogchen Tantras/Upadeshas/Texts

Postby kirtu » Thu May 03, 2012 1:42 am

Namdrol wrote:Memorizing a short text like the aspiration of Samantabhadra is only helpful, never harmful.


Does it plant a seed for future lives?

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
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Re: Memorization of Dzogchen Tantras/Upadeshas/Texts

Postby Malcolm » Thu May 03, 2012 2:46 am

kirtu wrote:
Namdrol wrote:Memorizing a short text like the aspiration of Samantabhadra is only helpful, never harmful.


Does it plant a seed for future lives?

Kirt


Most assuredly.
http://www.atikosha.org
http://www.bhaisajya.net
http://www.bhaisajya.guru
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


So called “sentient beings” are merely delusions self-appearing from the dhātu of luminosity.

-- Ju Mipham

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Re: Memorization of Dzogchen Tantras/Upadeshas/Texts

Postby Fa Dao » Thu May 03, 2012 5:07 am

Namdrol, you wouldnt happen to know of a good translation for that would you? :D
"But if you know how to observe yourself, you will discover your real nature, the primordial state, the state of Guruyoga, and then all will become clear because you will have discovered everything"-Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

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Re: Memorization of Dzogchen Tantras/Upadeshas/Texts

Postby Malcolm » Thu May 03, 2012 12:26 pm

Fa Dao wrote:Namdrol, you wouldnt happen to know of a good translation for that would you? :D



Well, it will probably be posted online when Rinpoche does the webcast in a few days times.
http://www.atikosha.org
http://www.bhaisajya.net
http://www.bhaisajya.guru
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


So called “sentient beings” are merely delusions self-appearing from the dhātu of luminosity.

-- Ju Mipham

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Re: Memorization of Dzogchen Tantras/Upadeshas/Texts

Postby Paul » Thu May 03, 2012 12:51 pm

I have found memorising short definitions from people like Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche to be very useful indeed. Even memorising a texts structure is useful I think - they are often laid out in a specific manner to reflect various stages.
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