I notice that his pronunciation of Sanskrit is a lot closer to the original than most Tibetans (e.g. Vajra instead of "benzar"). Is he atypical in this way or maybe it's just my own limited exposure to lamas?
Also, is his Tibetan pronunciation is more-or-less standard? I think the pronunciation handbook published by SSI said that "ky", "gy" in standard pronunciation were more or less "g" + "y" combined together, but Rinpoche pronounces it like Hanyu Pinyin "j", and going through Tournadre's textbook with recordings, it's just like Rinpoche's pronunciation. However, according to the book "dzogchen" is pronounced with an audible "k" while Rinpoche seems to just pronounce it with a long vowel.
ChNN's pronunciation
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He studied Sanskrit at Derge, and also has taken a keen interest in languages his whole life.Sherlock wrote:I notice that his pronunciation of Sanskrit is a lot closer to the original than most Tibetans (e.g. Vajra instead of "benzar"). Is he atypical in this way or maybe it's just my own limited exposure to lamas?
His pronunciation is Derge dialect from East Tibet.
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...with a wonderful tinge of Italian thrown in there somewhereNamdrol wrote:He studied Sanskrit at Derge, and also has taken a keen interest in languages his whole life.Sherlock wrote:I notice that his pronunciation of Sanskrit is a lot closer to the original than most Tibetans (e.g. Vajra instead of "benzar"). Is he atypical in this way or maybe it's just my own limited exposure to lamas?
His pronunciation is Derge dialect from East Tibet.
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mindyourmind wrote:...with a wonderful tinge of Italian thrown in there somewhereNamdrol wrote:He studied Sanskrit at Derge, and also has taken a keen interest in languages his whole life.Sherlock wrote:I notice that his pronunciation of Sanskrit is a lot closer to the original than most Tibetans (e.g. Vajra instead of "benzar"). Is he atypical in this way or maybe it's just my own limited exposure to lamas?
His pronunciation is Derge dialect from East Tibet.
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When I consider that Namkhai Norbu learned Italian and English in such a short time and has accomplished so much, it's extreeeemely impressive. I have heard some other Tibetan teachers trying to speak English and it is very hard to follow, even after being in America for several years. Some, I literally couldn't understand a single sentence.
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More than a tinge, his Italian is flawless.mindyourmind wrote:...with a wonderful tinge of Italian thrown in there somewhereNamdrol wrote:He studied Sanskrit at Derge, and also has taken a keen interest in languages his whole life.Sherlock wrote:I notice that his pronunciation of Sanskrit is a lot closer to the original than most Tibetans (e.g. Vajra instead of "benzar"). Is he atypical in this way or maybe it's just my own limited exposure to lamas?
His pronunciation is Derge dialect from East Tibet.
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Khandro Rinpoche is the only one I know that is speaking really great English. It for sure makes the message come through easier, she is a knockout.padma norbu wrote:When I consider that Namkhai Norbu learned Italian and English in such a short time and has accomplished so much, it's extreeeemely impressive. I have heard some other Tibetan teachers trying to speak English and it is very hard to follow, even after being in America for several years. Some, I literally couldn't understand a single sentence.
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Yes, she is fantastic!! I heard about her through this forum and am blown away by her Youtubes.
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H.H. Sakya Trizin speaks English incredibly well.
- How foolish you are,
grasping the letter of the text and ignoring its intention!
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Khandro Rinpoche's is indeed excellent. As is Dzongsar Khyentse's english.heart wrote:Khandro Rinpoche is the only one I know that is speaking really great English. It for sure makes the message come through easier, she is a knockout.padma norbu wrote:When I consider that Namkhai Norbu learned Italian and English in such a short time and has accomplished so much, it's extreeeemely impressive. I have heard some other Tibetan teachers trying to speak English and it is very hard to follow, even after being in America for several years. Some, I literally couldn't understand a single sentence.
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Mingyur Rinpoche also has very good english, only very rarely useing a translator for some complex words.
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