wisdom wrote:If you are still mixing Gnosticism and Buddhism, thats going to cause you many problems.
Overall I don't necessarily agree, however it would be an irrelevant debate, as I've decided to focus solely on Dzogchen for right now; if anything, in order to have a more uniform feel to my practice to start out with rather than skipping back and forth between traditions, even though I do feel that the two are compatible.
At first I wanted to practice both systems simultaneously, because I suspected that maybe at a relatively subconscious level I might have wanted to practice Dzogchen because it is "easier" than the Gnostic way, which of course is not necessarily the case; so by adhering to both I could avoid making excuses. Nonetheless, trying to do practices from both traditions is very impractical for me at the moment, so much better for me that I focus on Dzogchen only for now. This being said, Dzogchen has in Its teachings all the main points that the Gnostic teachings emphasize anyway.
Most if not all Instructors from the tradition of Samael Aun Weor recognize Dzogchen as legitimate, although they always warn people about trying to practice Dzogchen without really understanding it, because apparently some students have started reading about Dzogchen and thought they could practice it without any problems, but then became disappointed when they didn't see results and therefore gave up on both Gnosis and Dzogchen; albeit in many cases this happened because they thought that Dzogchen would be "easier".
It doesn't sound like you've committed any grave errors. You don't need an empowerment or anyone's permission to take refuge. And the types of dzogchen instructions given in most books are very general - I don't think you are likely to create serious obstacles for yourself by attempting them. When I first read ChNNR's book, Dzogchen, the Natural State, I incorporated general dzogchen approach to my meditation at the time, and it was very helpful. This was long before I had taken refuge or received direct introduction. Any Vajrayana practices you did at public pujas should also have been fine - unless they specified that they were only open to those who had received empowerment, and you joined in under false pretenses.
Well if I remember correctly, the instructions for taking refuge in the mentioned book by Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche were Vajrayana-specific, however this doesn't really matter now because Direct Introduction from Rinpoche and Tun practice certainly includes Refuge. And the Pujas I've attended were open to the public for sure, so good there. Anyway, yeah I also seemed to have benefited from applying, without Direct Introduction, the Dzogchen view the best I could according to what I'd read; at least for a while.
As for grave errors, well I certainly didn't share my whole life story here, so when you say...:
I'm going to guess that the obstacles you referred to were there long before you were exposed to dharma. In which case your anxiety about broken samaya is a competely imaginary projection. With this understanding, the anxiety won't necessarily go away immediately, but you can then get some insight into the actual source of your suffering. Please be kind to yourself!!
...I think you're spot on, because any grave errors I've committed are probably not in the context of Dharma practice specifically, but are more related to life in general (whether in this life or past lives).
Thanks you Dakini Boi, I'll take your advice to heart.
(But not to the particular heart I'm replying to next; although maybe he needs to be more kind to himself too, I don't know
heart wrote:I must ask, is it true you are in Kathmandu? Which will make the local Ling you mention above Ka-Nying Shedrup Ling close to the great stupa in Boudnath, is that right? If it is then all your troubles and doubts are very very easy to remove. All you need is a "kata", a offering and a little courage. You can request refuge, Bodhisattva vows and with a little luck take part in a traditional empowerment and receive teachings on the nature of the mind very soon.
he he..that's what i thought, Heart....take another look
Kamadhatu ... not Kathmandu
(first time have made the same mistake)
Eh? Ah, kama dhatu, the desire realm.
Makes more sense now.
I didn't even consider that when I first read your post. I just thought hm strange, I guess Magnus thinks that the Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche lineage only exists in Nepal?
Anyway, well I have received teachings on the Nature of Mind; from Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche. Of course the Webcast style of Receiving Direct Introduction is not traditional in the sense of one being in the same room as the Guru who gives the Introduction. But we all know that this has been discussed at length elsewhere here. Anyhow, having a physical Sangha to associate with is I'm sure a very good thing, and there aren't any Dzogchen Community Lings or Gars in my state. However, especially now that I have Received Direct Introduction, I would rather perform some Purification practices at home before requesting teachings in the physical presence of a Lama.
Thank you for your advice and good wishes though Magnus.
MrDistracted wrote:Lhug Pa, I would be surprised if your obstacles are are serious as you think, or are caused by breaking of samaya. Rather, from what you've written, one could say that you have received a profound blessing from Dilgo Khyense Rinpoche: you took refuge as best you could following his advice in his book and sure enough you are now able to connect with the authentic dzogchen teachings through ChNNR. That doesn't seem to be the trajectory of a samaya breaker.
All the very best.....and hang onto those books........
Which goes back to my question which went something like "Wouldn't 'the Universe' have made it impossible to for me to have Received Direct Introduction from Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche if I'd actually broken Samaya?"
If having Received Direct Introduction from Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche was somehow connected to having received Blessings from H.H. Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche, then maybe all of my neurosis and negative actions within the past seven years didn't completely obscure the said possibly-received Blessings. I don't recall ever having Received teachings from H.H. Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche in dreams, although it does almost seem familiar, and I have wondered if I had a connection to him, even more-so after having read this post
Thank you for your insight Mr. Distracted.