Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Postby Daniel Arraes » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:00 pm

Can one say that, according to Dzogchen, Aalaya (kun-gzhi) and the neutral awareness (shes-pa-lung-ma-bstan) are the same thing?
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Re: Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Postby Malcolm » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:51 pm

Daniel Arraes wrote:Can one say that, according to Dzogchen, Aalaya (kun-gzhi) and the neutral awareness (shes-pa-lung-ma-bstan) are the same thing?



No, they are different. The ālaya is ignorance.
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Re: Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Postby asunthatneversets » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:32 am

Namdrol wrote:
Daniel Arraes wrote:Can one say that, according to Dzogchen, Aalaya (kun-gzhi) and the neutral awareness (shes-pa-lung-ma-bstan) are the same thing?



No, they are different. The ālaya is ignorance.


I've seen ālaya roughly translated to (or said to represent) a sort of storehouse or warehouse consciousness, is it due to this notion that it is essentially ignorance?
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Re: Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Postby Daniel Arraes » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:49 pm

Namdrol wrote:
Daniel Arraes wrote:Can one say that, according to Dzogchen, Aalaya (kun-gzhi) and the neutral awareness (shes-pa-lung-ma-bstan) are the same thing?



No, they are different. The ālaya is ignorance.


What type of ignorance: innate or imputing?
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Re: Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Postby Malcolm » Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:42 pm

Daniel Arraes wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
Daniel Arraes wrote:Can one say that, according to Dzogchen, Aalaya (kun-gzhi) and the neutral awareness (shes-pa-lung-ma-bstan) are the same thing?



No, they are different. The ālaya is ignorance.


What type of ignorance: innate or imputing?


Imputing since it is afflicted.
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http://www.bhaisajya.net
http://www.bhaisajya.guru
http://www.sakyapa.net
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


The very meaning of the Tibetan term Dzogchen, "Great Perfection," refers to the true primordial state of every individual and not to any transcendent reality.

-- Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
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