Aalaya and Neutral awareness

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Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Postby Daniel Arraes » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:00 pm

Can one say that, according to Dzogchen, Aalaya (kun-gzhi) and the neutral awareness (shes-pa-lung-ma-bstan) are the same thing?

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Re: Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Postby Malcolm » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:51 pm

Daniel Arraes wrote:Can one say that, according to Dzogchen, Aalaya (kun-gzhi) and the neutral awareness (shes-pa-lung-ma-bstan) are the same thing?



No, they are different. The ālaya is ignorance.
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Re: Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Postby krodha » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:32 am

Namdrol wrote:
Daniel Arraes wrote:Can one say that, according to Dzogchen, Aalaya (kun-gzhi) and the neutral awareness (shes-pa-lung-ma-bstan) are the same thing?



No, they are different. The ālaya is ignorance.


I've seen ālaya roughly translated to (or said to represent) a sort of storehouse or warehouse consciousness, is it due to this notion that it is essentially ignorance?

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Re: Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Postby Daniel Arraes » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:49 pm

Namdrol wrote:
Daniel Arraes wrote:Can one say that, according to Dzogchen, Aalaya (kun-gzhi) and the neutral awareness (shes-pa-lung-ma-bstan) are the same thing?



No, they are different. The ālaya is ignorance.


What type of ignorance: innate or imputing?

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Re: Aalaya and Neutral awareness

Postby Malcolm » Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:42 pm

Daniel Arraes wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
Daniel Arraes wrote:Can one say that, according to Dzogchen, Aalaya (kun-gzhi) and the neutral awareness (shes-pa-lung-ma-bstan) are the same thing?



No, they are different. The ālaya is ignorance.


What type of ignorance: innate or imputing?


Imputing since it is afflicted.
http://www.atikosha.org
http://www.bhaisajya.net
http://www.bhaisajya.guru
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


So called “sentient beings” are merely delusions self-appearing from the dhātu of luminosity.

-- Ju Mipham


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