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Transmission on the Internet

Postby michaelb » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:26 pm

Given the technologically advanced methods of giving transmissions and teaching, the DC membership system seems antiquated. Apparently, I have to pay by cheque or set up a standing order. I don't have a cheque book any more. Who does? Why they can't use Papal or credit card payments is beyond me. Anyway, looks like I definitely won't get the log in in time, so I'll have to look for teachings elsewhere . Talking of which, does anyone know of a Dudjom Tersar Drolo commentary ? maybe also a recording of the Wishfulfilling Cow?
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby michaelb » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:09 pm

I know. I attended some teachings in London a couple of years ago, and have watched quite a few open webcasts, and met up with local members for the transmission. but joining just for one closed webcast when i really want teachings on another terma may not be the best reason to join.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby dakini_boi » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:36 pm

How do you log on to a closed webcast? Go to the normal webcast site? Anything special you have to do?
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Postby Malcolm » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:44 pm

dakini_boi wrote:How do you log on to a closed webcast? Go to the normal webcast site? Anything special you have to do?



Use your webcast team assigned user name and password on the login page which is found on the files page
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby dakini_boi » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:51 pm

Thanks, Namdrol. And then return to the webcast video page, after logging in? It says something on bottom of webcast page about needing to "subscribe" to restricted webcasts. I'm assuming this isn't necessary. Just want to check these things now, so I'm not out of luck at the start of the teaching.
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Postby heart » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:05 pm

I am not getting the webcast, is it on?

/magnus

edit: wrong day, it is tomorrow right?
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Postby daelm » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:34 pm

heart wrote:I am not getting the webcast, is it on?

/magnus

edit: wrong day, it is tomorrow right?



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Postby Malcolm » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:18 am

JinpaRangdrol wrote:Does anybody know if they'll post a copy of the full Sadhana on the webcast page, or if not, does anybody have a PDF of it?



It is already up.

The full sadhana consists of a seed syllable and two mantras. That is just how we roll in the DC. :guns:

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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby padma norbu » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:19 pm

I don't understand why they don't just use Ustream. Kids have broadcast concerts from their iPhone to tens of thousands of people at a time using Ustream. I must have clicked the refresh button 100 times already in the first hour today.

How can we be sure we're receiving transmission if there is a huge time lag? When I started out at 8, I tried both mobile app and computer video to see which was better. The mobile was several minutes ahead. At about 9, an hour later, I had hit the mobile "back 30 seconds" to refresh the stuck video so many times that the computer video was now way ahead of the mobile version.
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Postby Mr. G » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:23 pm

padma norbu wrote:I don't understand why they don't just use Ustream. Kids have broadcast concerts from their iPhone to tens of thousands of people at a time using Ustream. I must have clicked the refresh button 100 times already in the first hour today.

How can we be sure we're receiving transmission if there is a huge time lag? When I started out at 8, I tried both mobile app and computer video to see which was better. The mobile was several minutes ahead. At about 9, an hour later, I had hit the mobile "back 30 seconds" to refresh the stuck video so many times that the computer video was now way ahead of the mobile version.


I completely agree with the use of Ustream.

Second, Sonam advised something that he does that is giving me an almost flawless webcast today: I have one browser tab open with video where I muted the sound. I have a second browser tab open with audio playing. I've only had to refresh once on the audio page. There is a delay with video to audio, but to me, flawless audio is most important.
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Postby padma norbu » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:25 pm

audio is totally different time, too. I think tomorrow I will open the pc video and pc audio and see which starts first, then close the other one. I'm guessing audio might be most reliable.
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Postby padma norbu » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:26 pm

Mr. G wrote:Second, Sonam advised something that he does that is giving me an almost flawless webcast today: I have one browser tab open with video where I muted the sound. I have a second browser tab open with audio playing. I've only had to refresh once on the audio page. There is a delay with video to audio, but to me, flawless audio is most important.


This is a good idea. Being able to see him has kept me awake! Yesterday, I was just listening and it was impossible to stay awake. I wonder if Macs or PCs play the video better. Hmmm. I will test now.
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Postby padma norbu » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:36 pm

Surprise! My crappy little PC Netbook plays the video better in Firefox with Windows 7 than my expensive iMac in either Chrome or Firefox on OS X.
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Postby padma norbu » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:58 pm

I noticed that he said he gave transmission today. While he was saying the mantras, both times he said it, my connection paused. It was also delayed by about 3 or 4 minutes anyway from the audio. So... I really don't think I received transmission.

Is the initiation tomorrow all I will really need?
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Postby alpha » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:03 pm

padma norbu wrote:I don't understand why they don't just use Ustream. Kids have broadcast concerts from their iPhone to tens of thousands of people at a time using Ustream. I must have clicked the refresh button 100 times already in the first hour today.

How can we be sure we're receiving transmission if there is a huge time lag? When I started out at 8, I tried both mobile app and computer video to see which was better. The mobile was several minutes ahead. At about 9, an hour later, I had hit the mobile "back 30 seconds" to refresh the stuck video so many times that the computer video was now way ahead of the mobile version.


well...try the audio only...

I gave up on video .
Right now the video seems to be at least 20 minutes behind..

So i asked myself the same question .What kind of transmission one can receive when the broadcast is not in real time.
Watching the video broadcast is equivalent to watching a replay.
So far the worst broadcasts come from Argentina.
I have no ideea why.
Is Argentina in a different world system from the rest of us?
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Postby Malcolm » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:17 pm

padma norbu wrote:I noticed that he said he gave transmission today. While he was saying the mantras, both times he said it, my connection paused. It was also delayed by about 3 or 4 minutes anyway from the audio. So... I really don't think I received transmission.

Is the initiation tomorrow all I will really need?



Yes, and really, don't get so locked into concepts -- for example, it even takes some time for sound to travel through air in the same room. If you obsess about things like this, you will never overcome doubt.

As long as you heard it, then you received it. He intended you to receive it, you intended to receive it, therefore, the transmission is perfect, ok?

Tomorrow, just listen to the audio feed.

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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby padma norbu » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:23 pm

Namdrol wrote:As long as you heard it, then you received it.

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Problem is I didn't really hear it. I switched over to audio not realizing how far ahead it was. Just a little while ago someone pointed out the video was at least 20 minutes behind, so I turned it on to see how much I missed. He was in the middle of explaining something he previously gave transmission for, I think. Then he did a second transmission and I did hear that. I think he said "okay, this is the transmission for the tantra." If taht is the only transmission he gave, then I guess I got it just in the nick of time, but if he gave anything else, I missed it. When I heard it, I wasn't really in a "receiving" frame of mind, I was thinking, "yup, I missed it" and was sort of preoccupied.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby blackpath » Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:40 pm

alpha wrote:
padma norbu wrote:I don't understand why they don't just use Ustream. Kids have broadcast concerts from their iPhone to tens of thousands of people at a time using Ustream. I must have clicked the refresh button 100 times already in the first hour today.

How can we be sure we're receiving transmission if there is a huge time lag? When I started out at 8, I tried both mobile app and computer video to see which was better. The mobile was several minutes ahead. At about 9, an hour later, I had hit the mobile "back 30 seconds" to refresh the stuck video so many times that the computer video was now way ahead of the mobile version.


The best strategy I can recommend if someone is set on watching a video stream, is to switch over to the audio stream at the *first* sign of significant lag, and then staying put on the audio stream. Hopping back and forth between video and audio can cause a host of problems, not only for your streams, but it affects the server capability for all others who are streaming. Hopping in general consumes processing threads, ports, causes overhead, delays and a host of issues. This results in the types of conditions reported--one person is 3-4 minutes lagged, another 20 minutes, and both are true.

In short--if there's trouble stick to audio, and only reconnect when disconnected.
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ChNNR - Transmission on the Internet

Postby oberon_rex » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:16 pm

padma norbu wrote:I don't understand why they don't just use Ustream. Kids have broadcast concerts from their iPhone to tens of thousands of people at a time using Ustream. I must have clicked the refresh button 100 times already in the first hour today.

How can we be sure we're receiving transmission if there is a huge time lag? When I started out at 8, I tried both mobile app and computer video to see which was better. The mobile was several minutes ahead. At about 9, an hour later, I had hit the mobile "back 30 seconds" to refresh the stuck video so many times that the computer video was now way ahead of the mobile version.



Given how awful the connection is tonight, I suggest someone who knows about this system to send information to : webcast@shangshunginstitute.org
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Kilaya. » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:21 pm

Neither video, nor audio on the day of the initiation.
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