ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby alpha » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:32 pm

Pero wrote:
alpha wrote:If one has lots of time does that mean that one should sound A 3 million times a day all day long?

If you like. Might be tough though. If you have a lot of time then it's better you alternate with song of the vajra.

If you are a dzogchen practitioner and you practice guru yoga of white A only as rinpoche sugests will this lead to the ultimate realization that of achieving rainbow body in this lifetime?

No, you need to practice longde, thogal or yangti for achieving rainbow body.


Ok....

Now this is another piece of a puzzle which Rinpoche never mentions...
He only says that if one wants total realization one should do guru yoga.

In six months of webcasts i have never heard rinpoche saying ,not even once ,that if one wants total realization one should start thogal ..or yangti etc...Why is that?

I am not trying to be difficult i am only trying to replicate the the essence of what he is been saying all this time..
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Pero » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:39 pm

alpha wrote:Now this is another piece of a puzzle which Rinpoche never mentions...
He only says that if one wants total realization one should do guru yoga.

In six months of webcasts i have never heard rinpoche saying ,not even once ,that if one wants total realization one should start thogal ..or yangti etc...Why is that?

I said that if you wanted to achieve rainbow body you have to practice thogal etc. This doesn't mean you can't achieve total realization without achieving the rainbow body. Rainbow body is a sign. Rainbow body = total realization but not necessarily total realization = rainbow body.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby heart » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:35 pm

Anyone know what pages in Adzom Drugpa works from TBRC where the Drollo tsog is?

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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Malcolm » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:45 pm

heart wrote:Anyone know what pages in Adzom Drugpa works from TBRC where the Drollo tsog is?

/magnus


It is part of medium activity manual, and the feast itself starts on page 72.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Sherlock » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:10 pm

Is there a booklet for this werdze Chenma (sp?) transimission he is giving?
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Kilaya. » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:13 pm

Sherlock wrote:Is there a booklet for this werdze Chenma (sp?) transimission he is giving?


http://www.shangshungstore.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=132
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Pema Rigdzin » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:13 pm

Sherlock wrote:Is there a booklet for this werdze Chenma (sp?) transimission he is giving?

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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby padma norbu » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:35 pm

The advice he is giving today is fantastic. A lot of detail about many things. I am not sure if these last days of retreat are usually available as replays due to the fact that the last day is mostly reading of lungs, but I hope this one is since there is pronunciation advice and practice advice, etc. which is hard to get all at once without being able to pause and rewind if necessary.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Malcolm » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:43 pm

padma norbu wrote:The advice he is giving today is fantastic. A lot of detail about many things. I am not sure if these last days of retreat are usually available as replays due to the fact that the last day is mostly reading of lungs, but I hope this one is since there is pronunciation advice and practice advice, etc. which is hard to get all at once without being able to pause and rewind if necessary.



Yes, generally they are.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby padma norbu » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:51 pm

Awesome.

BTW, I think I'm going to start doing Dorje Drolo instead of Guru Dragphur. He didn't say anything about it being dangerous that I heard.

I think I'm also going to start taking Bimala and doing Mandarava.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Mr. G » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:04 pm

padma norbu wrote:The advice he is giving today is fantastic. A lot of detail about many things.


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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Stewart » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:41 pm

Hey,

Has anyone made a complete list of all transmissions Rinpoche gave? I listened on my mobile whilst on the move....so was unable to write down.

Many thanks,

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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Sherlock » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:42 pm

So which lungs did Rinpoche just give besides the usual ones from the tun book?

Odzer Chenma
Mandarava
Korwa Tongtrug
Gomadevi
Chod
Naga practice
Vajrapani

Did I miss any?
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Sönam » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:12 pm

Sherlock wrote:So which lungs did Rinpoche just give besides the usual ones from the tun book?

Odzer Chenma
Mandarava
Korwa Tongtrug
Gomadevi
Chod
Naga practice
Vajrapani

Did I miss any?


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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby heart » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:01 pm

Namdrol wrote:
heart wrote:Anyone know what pages in Adzom Drugpa works from TBRC where the Drollo tsog is?

/magnus


It is part of medium activity manual, and the feast itself starts on page 72.


Thank you Namdrol! So from the the longer and shorter sadhanas and activity manuals Rinpoche is giving the essence of the concise daily practice?

/magnus
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby padma norbu » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:46 pm

Sönam wrote:
Sherlock wrote:So which lungs did Rinpoche just give besides the usual ones from the tun book?

Odzer Chenma
Mandarava
Korwa Tongtrug
Gomadevi
Chod
Naga practice
Vajrapani

Did I miss any?


Tara


Red Garuda

by the way, did I "get them" if I was just hearing them and had initially thought "I'll receive them all"? Just ask because I started typing on dharmawheel.net after a while and not really paying that close attention since I don't understand Tibetan. I pretty much only heard him say he was giving Odzer Chenma, Mandarava, Naga, Tara and Red Garuda. The rest I didn't even hear because I wasn't paying attention. My ears were open, though, and I heard sound. :smile:
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Malcolm » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:50 pm

heart wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
heart wrote:Anyone know what pages in Adzom Drugpa works from TBRC where the Drollo tsog is?

/magnus


It is part of medium activity manual, and the feast itself starts on page 72.


Thank you Namdrol! So from the the longer and shorter sadhanas and activity manuals Rinpoche is giving the essence of the concise daily practice?

/magnus


This another sadhana, called the rgyun khyer, page 133-135. This is what he again gave the short lung for today.

Then of course, one can do it in the short thun, etc., in all the ways rinpoche mentioned.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Sherlock » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:01 pm

I don't think he gave Red Garuda. He was telling the story of how he received the Mandarava teachings and he said he was teaching Red Garuda to students before and they reported results with that and Amitayus and Medicine Buddha.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Stewart » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:05 pm

He gave Red Garuda, Terma of Adzom Drugpa.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby alpha » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:01 pm

It seems that the connection died completely...
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