ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby padma norbu » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:50 pm

Which files were people talking about on this thread here?
http://www.tbrc.org/#library_BannerSear ... rolo"

^ I searched Dorje Drolo, but there's quite a few files. Apparently one of them is one we should grab?
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Josef » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:52 pm

padma norbu wrote:Which files were people talking about on this thread here?
http://www.tbrc.org/#library_BannerSear ... rolo"

^ I searched Dorje Drolo, but there's quite a few files. Apparently one of them is one we should grab?

There is a collection of Dorje Drolo works by in Adzom Drukpa's collected works.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby padma norbu » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:01 pm

So, to recap, he basically just said we can do a short tun but use Dorje Drolo rather than Guru Dragpur, right? That is basically the practice? But, of course, the risk is I might become mentally unstable, right? I didn't hear him mention any warnings about that, though.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Kilaya. » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:02 pm

padma norbu wrote:So, to recap, he basically just said we can do a short tun but use Dorje Drolo rather than Guru Dragpur, right? That is basically the practice?


Precisely.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Mr. G » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:05 pm

Regarding the root mantra and action mantra, is the recitation ratio about the same? For example, if one does 100 recitations of the root mantra, would one do 10 recitations of the action mantra?
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Pero » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:06 pm

Mr. G wrote:Regarding the root mantra and action mantra, is the recitation ratio about the same? For example, if one does 100 recitations of the root mantra, would one do 10 recitations of the action mantra?

No, he said you do it 3 times at most.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby alpha » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:06 pm

To me it seems that the daily practice is the one explained yesterday witch is pretty much similar to Guru Tragphur.

So i think that the visualizations done today are only done for the purpose of receiving the initiation and we dont do them during daily practice..
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Kilaya. » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:07 pm

Mr. G wrote:Regarding the root mantra and action mantra, is the recitation ratio about the same? For example, if one does 100 recitations of the root mantra, would one do 10 recitations of the action mantra?


As far as I remember, Rinpoche said that it should be recited 3 times just like in the case of Simhamukha.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Mr. G » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:08 pm

Pero wrote:
Mr. G wrote:Regarding the root mantra and action mantra, is the recitation ratio about the same? For example, if one does 100 recitations of the root mantra, would one do 10 recitations of the action mantra?

No, he said you do it 3 times at most.


Kilaya. wrote:
Mr. G wrote:Regarding the root mantra and action mantra, is the recitation ratio about the same? For example, if one does 100 recitations of the root mantra, would one do 10 recitations of the action mantra?


As far as I remember, Rinpoche said that it should be recited 3 times just like in the case of Simhamukha.



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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Sherlock » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:10 pm

I have this like "clear" feeling in my head like when I was doing semdzins regularly. Is this rigpa? or more like the after-effects of rigpa?
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby MrDistracted » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:52 pm

Hi

Does anyone have time to PM me the instructions for the concise practice/visualisation for the mantra recitation that Rinpoche explained yesterday, so I can be sure I've got it right?

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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby padma norbu » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:55 pm

So, what about the warnings from people earlier? Did Namkhai Norbu even suggest the possibility that I might go nuts if I do this practice today? I didn't hear him say anything about such risks at all.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Sherlock » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:56 pm

MrDistracted wrote:Hi

Does anyone have time to PM me the instructions for the concise practice/visualisation for the mantra recitation that Rinpoche explained yesterday, so I can be sure I've got it right?

Thanks


Basically the same as the short tun, but replace Guru Tragphur/Simhamukha along with their mantras with Dorje Drolo and his mantras.

I'd also like to know the answer to that question padma norbu, but the retreat isn't over yet and there must be a reason Rinpoche decided to make the webcast open at the last minute. Pretty fortuitous for me since I got my webcast login revoked.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Mr. G » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:15 pm

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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby padma norbu » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:37 pm

Sherlock wrote:I'd also like to know the answer to that question padma norbu, but the retreat isn't over yet and there must be a reason Rinpoche decided to make the webcast open at the last minute. Pretty fortuitous for me since I got my webcast login revoked.


Didn't pay your membership fee for 2012?

the retreat is over to me because I go back to work on Monday. I can listen to the replays, but not possible to fidget with a bad connection while trying to look like I'm working. :) Too bad the mobile version isn't stable; I could totally get away with that.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Pero » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:43 pm

I haven't payed my membership fee for 2012 yet but can still use my login. But I think Merigar East is usually kind of late on collecting fees (I think I payed about this time last year too), haven't received any emails about this year so far. Or maybe they are using Tibetan years haha.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby michaelb » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:57 pm

Nangwa wrote:
padma norbu wrote:Which files were people talking about on this thread here?
http://www.tbrc.org/#library_BannerSear ... rolo"

^ I searched Dorje Drolo, but there's quite a few files. Apparently one of them is one we should grab?

There is a collection of Dorje Drolo works by in Adzom Drukpa's collected works.

They are here:
http://tbrc.org/#library_work_Object-W30344
584 pages. previously, Namdrol said a short sadhana was on pages 133-135.

Near the end of the webcaste, ChNNR said that you can do the mantras as part of the short tun, or if you prefer rituals you could get a book like this. I assume he showed a book but I was on audio so I couldn't see. Could anyone see what that book was? He also suggested that doing a longer Drolo sadhana was more useful if one faced illness or provocations from spirits.

Personally, I prefer longer sadhanas and will probably stick with the longer Tersar sadhana I have. Dudjom Rinpoche also composed a number of other short sadhanas which make the essence of the practice explicit.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby Pero » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:28 pm

michaelb wrote:
Nangwa wrote:
padma norbu wrote:Which files were people talking about on this thread here?
http://www.tbrc.org/#library_BannerSear ... rolo"

^ I searched Dorje Drolo, but there's quite a few files. Apparently one of them is one we should grab?

There is a collection of Dorje Drolo works by in Adzom Drukpa's collected works.

They are here:
http://tbrc.org/#library_work_Object-W30344
584 pages. previously, Namdrol said a short sadhana was on pages 133-135.

Near the end of the webcaste, ChNNR said that you can do the mantras as part of the short tun, or if you prefer rituals you could get a book like this. I assume he showed a book but I was on audio so I couldn't see. Could anyone see what that book was? He also suggested that doing a longer Drolo sadhana was more useful if one faced illness or provocations from spirits.

I didn't see but assume that he was talking about Adzom Drugpa's terma.
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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby MrDistracted » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:46 pm

Does anyone happen to know which, if any, Dorje Drollo empowerments are in the Rinchen Terdzod?

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Re: ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

Postby michaelb » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:13 pm

I think one of them is a terma discovered by the Fifth Dalai Lama and another by Dudul Dorje. And I'm guessing it may include a Jangter Drolo.
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