gad rgyangs wrote:
re: Aro in general: its fun to play dress-up!
I was asking my friend about them earlier today after i made this post...
I guess they dress up like that to do the exact opposite of what non-tantra lineages do. Instead of shaving their heads they grow their hair out as long as possible. Instead of dark robes they wear white which symbolizes death... and the blue stripe down the center represents space, the red; menstrual blood, the yellow: nectar... wear ridiculous hats, non-celibate, act vulgar... crazy wisdom type stuff
I guess Ngakpa Chögyam just put out a book about his main teacher Künzang Dorje Rinpoche called Wisdom Eccentrics
A rare account of remarkable Lamas in the final years of a lost era. The author finds himself the first Western disciple of Künzang Dorje Rinpoche, a highly reclusive master known for mercurial wrath and facility with Dzogchen. He received direct introduction to the nature of Mind through ruthless interrogation on the meaning of the stories from the lives of Lineage Lamas. He is separated from his Lama for thirteen years—but they meet again and their relationship resumes.
In the interim he studies with the renowned crazy wisdom master Chhi’méd Rig’dzin Rinpoche. This wild cathartic sojourn gives rise to further stories—purveying an array of exuberantly startling scenarios.
Wisdom Eccentrics is a clear, accessible narrative set in creative contemporary language. The author’s fluent literary account is genuinely heartwarming, hilarious and humane—whilst retaining its power as an alarmingly insightful odyssey into the world of Vajrayana Buddhism.
Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche was truly a great master. I was able to spend a little time with him while in Nepal a few years ago, he was the Guru to one of my Gurus and some of my friends. It seems clear that Ngakpa Chogyam saw himself as a disciple of KD Rinpoche, what seems far less clear is if KD Rinpoche actually saw Chogyam as his disciple. Instead of recounting what is inevitably second or third hand info, which could be gossip, rumor, or similar, I will just say that from my sources there seems to be some uncertainty and leave it at that.
asunthatneversets: Only you can discern who is the right teacher for you. Having already taken an empowerment from this man, and having recounted your perception of good qualities, this is related to your personal experience. If you perceive good qualities, that is a good thing. Perhaps this thread has given you cause to question if you wish to pursue further relationship-- but to be on the cautious side, do not jump to negative opinions, instead simply create distance, don't create judgement. If it is absolutely true that this Terma is make-believe, you have no samaya to be concerned with. But until a realized master (such as your teacher ChNN) tells you this point blank, and tells you there is no samaya, then I would be cautious about creating negative views. Simply keep your distance for now. Don't antagonize your friend who is a student of his either with debates or anything.. Just be nonchalant, and be grateful you do have a teacher who is beyond doubt a sublime master. Time will inevitably bring more clarity.