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 Post subject: The Adi Buddha
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:41 am 
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Namdrol, can you please teach us about the Adi Buddha ?
Namdrol, can you please teach us about the Adi Buddha?
Namdrol, can you please teach us about the Adi Buddha ?



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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
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Within the context of KL's pleading I would also like to ask if there is a sadhana for Samantabhadra-dri Buddha that you are aware of?
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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
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Kunga Lhadzom wrote:
Namdrol, can you please teach us about the Adi Buddha ?
Namdrol, can you please teach us about the Adi Buddha?
Namdrol, can you please teach us about the Adi Buddha ?



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what else is he doing ?

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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:40 am 
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Greg,

Certainly there are various Shi-tro sadhanas where Samantrabhadra Yab-Yum play a central role. For instance, in Pegyal Lingpa's Pemai Sangwa Thigle ("Red Vajrasattva") sadhana, the yeshe sempa/jnana sattva is Samantrabhadra-i.

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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
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Once upon a time there was a Buddha. When he reached enlightenment he went around telling people, "You're suffering. I'm not. Adi ya like them apples?"


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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
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deepbluehum wrote:
Once upon a time there was a Buddha. When he reached enlightenment he went around telling people, "You're suffering. I'm not. Adi ya like them apples?"

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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:32 am 
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Those who know better can criticize this Wiki article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi-Buddha

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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:19 am 
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Tashi delek,

Adhi means first.

- What was first Nature or Adhi?
- Or is Nature Adhi?
- Or is Adhi used for people who don' t know their Nature?


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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:34 am 
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kalden yungdrung wrote:
Tashi delek,

Adhi means first.

- What was first Nature or Adhi?
- Or is Nature Adhi?
- Or is Adhi used for people who don' t know their Nature?


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http://rywiki.tsadra.org/index.php/mcho ... angs_rgyas

It just a name for Kuntuzangpo. Don't get confused by what people that don't know Dzogchen write about it.

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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:25 pm 
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heart wrote:
kalden yungdrung wrote:
Tashi delek,

Adhi means first.

- What was first Nature or Adhi?
- Or is Nature Adhi?
- Or is Adhi used for people who don' t know their/ the Nature?


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http://rywiki.tsadra.org/index.php/mcho ... angs_rgyas

It just a name for Kuntuzangpo. Don't get confused by what people that don't know Dzogchen write about it.

/magnus



Tashi delek,

Why should i be confused and about what?
Put only some questions for the elucidation about that term Adhi and Nature.... ;)


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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:53 pm 
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Kalachakra system also has Adi Buddha; not sure if it is identical to Dzogchen version or not.

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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
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Will wrote:
Kalachakra system also has Adi Buddha; not sure if it is identical to Dzogchen version or not.


Tashi delek,


Kalachakra Tantra has as their Adi Buddha Dorje Chang / Vajra dhara.

- Well Kalachakra does it belong to Buddhism qua time table etc.?
- Kalachakra is an independent system inside Vajrayana ?
- Is Dorje Chang same as Kuntu Zangpo ?


So i realy don' t know how to classify here that Adi Buddha, maybe we have here total different systems and Dzogchen is anyway not Kalachakra, so their fruit would also be different......


I guess that Dorje Chang must be here pointed out as Sambhogakaya Buddha so their adherents would be Tantrikas.

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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
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adi Buddha would be an original basis for the Dharma.

it does not have to be a person. it could be a collection.

the only thing is that it predates the known sources.

the teaching is about how to be the best possible person.


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 Post subject: Re: The Adi Buddha
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Will wrote:
Kalachakra system also has Adi Buddha; not sure if it is identical to Dzogchen version or not.


Not only Kalachakra..........Cakrasaṃvara = Vajradhara = Adi Buddha

In fact, many yidams presented in the HYT are depicted as the Sambhogakaya form of the Adi Buddha.


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