Namkha arte-sky gazing

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Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby Fa Dao » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:42 pm

Is this a Tregchod practice? Does anyone know if ChNNR teaches this and in which book? Any info on this would be helpful
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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby Josef » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:07 pm

Yes.
Here is a bit from a DC website.
http://dzogchen.ca/2010/07/
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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby pensum » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:19 pm

There are excellent teachings by Tulku Urgyen on this practice in a chapter entitled Space, in Quintessential Dzogchen (Rangjung Yeshe Publications) pp 190-196. Adeu Rinpoche also gives a brief but essential teaching on this practice in Freedom from Bondage pp 74-76 (also published by Rangjung Yeshe). Of course, this is no replacement for direct teachings from a qualified master, but they might satisfy your curiosity until you get the opportunity to receive them.
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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby heart » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:54 pm

pensum wrote:There are excellent teachings by Tulku Urgyen on this practice in a chapter entitled Space, in Quintessential Dzogchen (Rangjung Yeshe Publications) pp 190-196. Adeu Rinpoche also gives a brief but essential teaching on this practice in Freedom from Bondage pp 74-76 (also published by Rangjung Yeshe). Of course, this is no replacement for direct teachings from a qualified master, but they might satisfy your curiosity until you get the opportunity to receive them.


Great to see you here M. :smile:

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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby pensum » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:28 am

heart wrote:
pensum wrote:There are excellent teachings by Tulku Urgyen on this practice in a chapter entitled Space, in Quintessential Dzogchen (Rangjung Yeshe Publications) pp 190-196. Adeu Rinpoche also gives a brief but essential teaching on this practice in Freedom from Bondage pp 74-76 (also published by Rangjung Yeshe). Of course, this is no replacement for direct teachings from a qualified master, but they might satisfy your curiosity until you get the opportunity to receive them.


Great to see you here M. :smile:

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hey big man!
just thought i should make sure you're not getting into too much trouble.
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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby Pero » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:58 am

Fa Dao wrote:Does anyone know if ChNNR teaches this and in which book? Any info on this would be helpful

It's also in "An Introduction To The Practice Of Contemplation" and "The Cycle of Day and Night" (the commentary on it).
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby Silent Bob » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:32 am

pensum wrote:
heart wrote:Great to see you here M. :smile:
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hey big man!
just thought i should make sure you're not getting into too much trouble.


He needs someone to keep an eye on him.
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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby heart » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:52 am

Silent Bob wrote:
pensum wrote:
heart wrote:Great to see you here M. :smile:
/magnus


hey big man!
just thought i should make sure you're not getting into too much trouble.


He needs someone to keep an eye on him.


So true, keep getting in to trouble here. :smile:

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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby Fa Dao » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:50 pm

thanks everybody..
Pero...apparently I was having a senior moment...I have had Cycle of Day and Night for almost 20 years...totally forgot that was in the commentary section...am rereading the whole book again
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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby Fa Dao » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:49 pm

Does anyone know where this practice originated from?
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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby Malcolm » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:52 pm

Fa Dao wrote:Does anyone know where this practice originated from?


The original form of sky gazing come from the perfection of wisdom sutras.

But Namkhai arte is not just gazing at sky since it is connected with Dzogchen view.
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Re: Namkha arte-sky gazing

Postby Fa Dao » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:39 pm

So then it was adapted from the Prajnaparamita teachings using the Dzogchen view...interesting. Any idea of who first taught it in this context?
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