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Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby nowawakening » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:50 am

Hello,

Does anyone know who the genuine, accessible, Dzogchen Masters are of today?
The ones who don't appear to have any controversy surrounding them.
The ones who will take on Western students.
The ones who are part of a legitimate lineage.
The ones who have reached completion. (i realise this one is speculative)

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby Lhug-Pa » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:11 am

Great question.

Has anyone here heard of Lama Thupten Dorje Gyaltsen?

He is from the lineage of Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche.

I might start a thread on the Urgyen Samten Ling too....


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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby deepbluehum » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:24 am

nowawakening wrote:Hello,

Does anyone know who the genuine, accessible, Dzogchen Masters are of today?
The ones who don't appear to have any controversy surrounding them.
The ones who will take on Western students.
The ones who are part of a legitimate lineage.
The ones who have reached completion. (i realise this one is speculative)

Thanks for your help.

Regards


I would seek out Dodrubchen possibly Garchen. Living masters who have attained the exhaustion of phenomena; I don't know if even these fits this, but they may be the only ones. Third vision masters are more common. You must spend a lot of time praying to meet such masters. Of course they come.
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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby Pema Rigdzin » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:37 am

Khenpo Tsewang Dongyal Rinpoche, Yangthang Tulku Rinpoche, Katok Getse Rinpoche, Khenpo Namdrol Rinpoche, Khenchen Tsewang Gyatso Rinpoche, and Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche are some masters I can personally recommend. They are realized Dzogchen masters who honestly and compassionately share what they know with people from any walk of life that are interested in the teachings.
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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby heart » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:40 am

nowawakening wrote:Hello,

Does anyone know who the genuine, accessible, Dzogchen Masters are of today?
The ones who don't appear to have any controversy surrounding them.
The ones who will take on Western students.
The ones who are part of a legitimate lineage.
The ones who have reached completion. (i realise this one is speculative)

Thanks for your help.

Regards


Tulku Urgyen's sons, Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche, Tsikey Chokling Rinpoche, Tsoknyi Rinpoche and Mingyur Rinpoche.

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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby deepbluehum » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:14 am

I don't think the names mentioned have completed the fourth vision, maybe the third.
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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby heart » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:10 am

deepbluehum wrote:I don't think the names mentioned have completed the fourth vision, maybe the third.


You have to discuss that with them, I don't want to speculate. They do qualify in all the other questions.

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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby Pema Rigdzin » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:07 am

deepbluehum wrote:I don't think the names mentioned have completed the fourth vision, maybe the third.


Could you explain how you came to that conclusion? How in the world would you have any idea?
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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby Mr. G » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:19 am

Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
    How foolish you are,
    grasping the letter of the text and ignoring its intention!
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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby Josef » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:16 pm

Dungse Rigdzin Dorje Rinpoche
Mindrolling Khandro Rinpoche
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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

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Re: Living Dzogchen Masters?

Postby Kunzang Tobgyal » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:38 pm

Khenpo Sonam Tobgyal Rinpoche of Riwoche Kham. Presently in Toronto.

http://www.riwoche.com/sonam_rinpoche.html
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