Bardo Lights

[kalden yungdrung]

Tashi delek,

A question arose namely,
- Are the Bardo Lights experiences only something for the Tantric pratitioners?
This because the realizing of the Rainbow Body would by-pass certain Bardo States........ i guess so.

- In which relation can one see the Guyasamaya Tantra with the Bardo Thodol?
I read there would be a relation between them regarding the experience of the after death state(s) ?

Mutsog Marro
KY

[Yontan]

The experiences after death depend very much on how you relate to them. Kind of like right now.
We look at a Buddha, see a sentient being. Still a Buddha.

I don't have any experience or knowledge regarding Guhyasmaja - more a focus of the sarma schools than nyingma. I've seen references about the afterdeath that sound very similar, but I'm not sure there's a direct relationship between that tantra and the bardo thodol. Maybe so.

[Pema Rigdzin]

The Bardo Thodol belongs to the Dzogchen corpus of teachings... Not sure how it could be related to Guhyasamaya.

[kalden yungdrung]

I I've seen references about the afterdeath that sound very similar, but I'm not sure there's a direct relationship between that tantra and the bardo thodol. Maybe so.

Tashi delek,

Thanks for your reply.

Could you please tell more about those references and the relationship between that Tantra and the Bardo Thodol ?

Mutsog Marro
KY

[Josef]

Tashi delek,

A question arose namely,
- Are the Bardo Lights experiences only something for the Tantric pratitioners?
This because the realizing of the Rainbow Body would by-pass certain Bardo States........ i guess so.

- In which relation can one see the Guyasamaya Tantra with the Bardo Thodol?
I read there would be a relation between them regarding the experience of the after death state(s) ?

Mutsog Marro
KY

I dont think so.
As far as I understand it all beings experience sound and light in the bardo and ONLY practitioners experience tantric deities etc.