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padma norbu wrote:Thanks again... I'm going to leave this up for a few days and then request it be deleted because I don't feel like it is a good idea to archive such negativity. It may help some people, but I think it is more negative overall. Still, I needed to express it in order to get the right feedback.

Man I think it would be a real shame to delete the whole thread, there is some useful/interesting info on this practice here. Perhaps ask just to delete the last two pages or just the posts not related to the practice or something.
And good luck.

padma norbu wrote:Thanks again... I'm going to leave this up for a few days and then request it be deleted because I don't feel like it is a good idea to archive such negativity. It may help some people, but I think it is more negative overall. Still, I needed to express it in order to get the right feedback.

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When it is said that during the initial three-day retreat one should not recite anything but the Dorje Kotrab mantra, does this include even prayers, such as like the 7-line prayer and lineage prayers, gurus' long-life prayers, the alikali/Vajrasattva/D.O. mantra, and dedication prayers & mantras?

Pema Rigdzin wrote:When it is said that during the initial three-day retreat one should not recite anything but the Dorje Kotrab mantra, does this include even prayers, such as like the 7-line prayer and lineage prayers, gurus' long-life prayers, the alikali/Vajrasattva/D.O. mantra, and dedication prayers & mantras?

Ask rinpoche.

Pero wrote:Thanks a lot for that interesting in-depth explanation. Too bad Lama Dawa doesn't go to Europe, I'd be interested in receiving his teachings on this practice. BTW, though not a samaya, you have to maintain a daily recitation in the practice taught by Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche too. If you break the daily recitation you lose the function of the mantra and have to repeat the 3 day retreat, or so it's explained.

I have heard excellent reports from retreatants who practice with Lama Dawa re Vajra Armor. My own experience is that there he is clear and unambiguous, provides an environment (especially the Saraswati Bhawan retreat land) that is as obstacle free as possible for practitioners.

Perhaps a trip from Europe is trivial considering this, no?

Best,

Tenzin Dorje

TenzinDorje wrote:

Pero wrote:Thanks a lot for that interesting in-depth explanation. Too bad Lama Dawa doesn't go to Europe, I'd be interested in receiving his teachings on this practice. BTW, though not a samaya, you have to maintain a daily recitation in the practice taught by Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche too. If you break the daily recitation you lose the function of the mantra and have to repeat the 3 day retreat, or so it's explained.

I have heard excellent reports from retreatants who practice with Lama Dawa re Vajra Armor. My own experience is that there he is clear and unambiguous, provides an environment (especially the Saraswati Bhawan retreat land) that is as obstacle free as possible for practitioners.

Perhaps a trip from Europe is trivial considering this, no?

No since it is quite irrelevant to me if the retreat land is obstacle free when I am not obstacle free.

Lama Dawa has announced His 2013 schedule which, I believe, includes two Level 1 Vajra Armor retreats at His retreat land in Lansing, IA. I cannot praise these retreats too highly. They definitely get the job done and include a series of tests at the end which conform that fact. IMHO, anyone interested in this practice should try to attend these retreats with Lama Dawa. You won't be sorry.

pemachophel wrote: You won't be sorry.

I don't doubt that.

a bind:

the US DC site is evidently sold out of the Vajra Armor booklet. Do I wait it out or order from Europe or... ?

Jikan wrote:a bind:

the US DC site is evidently sold out of the Vajra Armor booklet. Do I wait it out or order from Europe or... ?

I would order from Europe.
The US store is often sold out of certain items for excruciatingly long periods of time.

OK. I'd like to be prepared in case the opportunity for a few-days-long retreat arises.

I just bought it from Italy ...

Sönam

i had the precious text and teaching from Lhatse Trulku Rinpoche who receive this text and teaching from His Holiness Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche compound teaching, later on i receive from another of my teacher Khunchok Rinpoche who is a student of His Holiness Penor Rinpoche and receive the teaching from Penor Rinpoche himself on a 1 on 1 transmission.

my reference on both both practice text and explanation is similar very identical 95%, its call the "Dorje Gotrab from Terma of Three Cycle Compilation" , i have search high and low and across several countries never had i come across other reference or practice text relating to Dorje Gotrab practice, but i did find online there are a couple of uploaded copy which is quite different including the mantra.

my take is the text and teaching receive from the master whom you receive the Wang would be the most appropriate for this practice, but i am still always looking at this deity practice material for reference.

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