Namdrol wrote:Enochian wrote:Adinatha talks a LOT about guru yoga, but is he aware than in Dzogchen that guru yoga is nothing other than abiding in the natural state?
Maybe Namdrol can verify.
A lot of people misunderstand the symbolism of the A in the thigle at the heart (Dzogchen guru yoga).
I am sure he has some idea since he has attended webcasts. He probably also knows that in the community, Norbu Rinpoche never stresses devotion as the key point of guru yoga, rather he stresses knowledge as the key point of guru yoga.
There is the path of inference, the path of blessings and the path of direct knowledge which is the ultimate guru. You have to get direct introduction to guru state somehow is all I'm saying. I have said here plenty of times ultimate guru is knowledge. For those who perhaps don't have Namkhai Norbu there is a recourse. There's always a recourse. Nyingma masters have this special samaya, say the mantra and bam guru. Whether your guru state arrives from blessings or from pointing out or Semzin, guru is guru. Besides, what do you think ChNNR places all those mantras and visualizations in the Tun book? It's not just busy work. Blessings and direct knowledge are mutually supportive.