Jacob wrote:I've been thinking a lot about this mindfulness of dream retreats with Charlie Morley, and i wonder if that can bring me some good results. Charlie is a good speaker, charismatic person, but what can he teach me that e.g. ChNNR can't? I guess if i don't do a lot of 6 loka purification and some dark retreats there won't be any use of it. But maybe i am wrong and somehow i will start lucid dreaming after retreat
Does anyone have some expierience with working with Charlie Morley? Oldbob, you have introduced us to him, can you please say something more?
Best wishes!
Hi Jacob, all and All,
For me the 2 practices complement each other and I gained a lot of insight into the practice of dream yoga, as taught by ChNNR, from attending a dream yoga retreat with Charlie Morley.
For other people, I am sure that they would have different ideas and their ideas are completely correct for them. What makes sense to you, you have to discover.
Of course you should not mix the 2 practices as they are completely different, different lineages, trasmission, etc.
You can try dream yoga without doing any 6 loka or dark retreat practices. I think how easily it works depends on you. I certainly would also highly recommend going to a dream yoga retreat / seminar with Michael Katz, the DC approved dream yoga Teacher. I've attended his seminars and Michael is the best of the best. If you go to his seminar your take away will be dream yoga. Same for Charlie Morley.
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Though I haven't taken dream yoga from Ven. Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche or Ven. Tenzin Namdak Rinpoche, I have taken other teaching from both of them and I would trust the dream yoga that I got from them also. Again, it always necessary to remember the caveat that you should not mix practices from different lineages / Teachers.
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Other people may have different ideas than I do and that is fine with me. Everyone has to work out their realization for themselves. What is correct for one person is not correct for another.
Perhaps I should mention that HH Venerable Do Drup Chen Rinpoche suggests to his students that they not study with other Teachers. This is a completely correct instruction for him and his students.
For me, Ven. Do Drup Chen Rinpoche is the same as Guru Rinpoche, and I highly recommend him as a prime source for the Longchen Nyingthig Lineage Teachings, and I feel the same about ChNNR.
That said, I have never, in the 32 years that I have been with ChNNR, have heard him say that anyone should not study with other Teachers, or limit themselves in any way, with the one exception of the Shugden practice. If others have heard differently, I would welcome that they correct me.
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I agree with this, and wholeheartedly recommended that you follow this, and any other prescriptions from ChNNR, 100 per cent, if he is your Teacher.
If you have any questions about this, as to what is best for you, I would suggest that you ask ChNNR directly.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Hope this helps someone!
Long life to the Dzogchen Masters, in good health and with success in all things.
ob