Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

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Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby frank123 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:53 pm

Hi, Does receiving direct introduction give one the lung for a specific 6 lokas practice?I read that for one to practice purification of the 6 lokas presented in the precious vase,receiving direct introduction is suffice.is that true?

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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby Malcolm » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:56 pm

frank123 wrote:.is that true?

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Yes. This is true.
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby frank123 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:09 pm

I have ordered the precious vase and i am studying a recording of Vajrasattva and the purification 6 lokas retreat.Is this a different practice than the one in the precious vase,if so do i need a lung for the Vajrasattva and the 6 lokas practice?
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby Malcolm » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:41 pm

frank123 wrote:I have ordered the previous vase and i am studying a recording of Vajrasattva and the purification 6 lokas retreat.Is this a different practice than the one in the previous vase,if so do i need a lung for the Vajrasattva and the 6 lokas practice?


Yes, you do need the lung for this.
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby frank123 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:48 pm

Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:I have ordered the previous vase and i am studying a recording of Vajrasattva and the purification 6 lokas retreat.Is this a different practice than the one in the previous vase,if so do i need a lung for the Vajrasattva and the 6 lokas practice?


Yes, you do need the lung for this.


Thanks. ok i will concentrate on the one in the precious vase.
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby frank123 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:45 am

Does ChNN only give the lung for the purification of the 6 lokas during a retreat on the 6 lokas? or does he give it at the end of other retreats?

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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby Malcolm » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:20 pm

frank123 wrote:Does ChNN only give the lung for the purification of the 6 lokas during a retreat on the 6 lokas? or does he give it at the end of other retreats?

Thanks


Every retreat
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby frank123 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:33 pm

Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Does ChNN only give the lung for the purification of the 6 lokas during a retreat on the 6 lokas? or does he give it at the end of other retreats?

Thanks


Every retreat


I have been attending webcasts and practicing Guru yoga.Would it be safe to say then i received the lung for the vajrasattva and the purification of the 6 lokas and i can study the retreat on this and practice it?I just want to be sure because i don't consciously remember receiving the lung and i'm not comfortable not knowing.
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby Malcolm » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:14 pm

frank123 wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Does ChNN only give the lung for the purification of the 6 lokas during a retreat on the 6 lokas? or does he give it at the end of other retreats?

Thanks


Every retreat


I have been attending webcasts and practicing Guru yoga.Would it be safe to say then i received the lung for the vajrasattva and the purification of the 6 lokas and i can study the retreat on this and practice it?I just want to be sure because i don't consciously remember receiving the lung and i'm not comfortable not knowing.


Are you talking about the Longsal Ngondro?
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby frank123 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:32 pm

Yes i am,would it be appropriate for me to practice it without remembering if i received the lung?
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby Malcolm » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:35 pm

frank123 wrote:Yes i am,would it be appropriate for me to practice it without remembering if i received the lung?


No, it would not, AFAIK. You need to send ChNN an email and ask him to give the lung during the next retreat.
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http://www.bhaisajya.guru
http://atikosha.org
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby frank123 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:41 pm

Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Yes i am,would it be appropriate for me to practice it without remembering if i received the lung?


No, it would not, AFAIK. You need to send ChNN an email and ask him to give the lung during the next retreat.


Ok,thanks for the clarification.So just to be clear i can practice the purification of 6 lokas from the precious vase?
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby Malcolm » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:52 pm

frank123 wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Yes i am,would it be appropriate for me to practice it without remembering if i received the lung?


No, it would not, AFAIK. You need to send ChNN an email and ask him to give the lung during the next retreat.


Ok,thanks for the clarification.So just to be clear i can practice the purification of 6 lokas from the precious vase?



Yes.
http://www.bhaisajya.net
http://www.bhaisajya.guru
http://atikosha.org
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby frank123 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:57 pm

Thank you.
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby Malcolm » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:57 pm

frank123 wrote:Thank you.



You can practice all of the semzin and rushan practices actually.
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby Inge » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:44 pm

Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Thank you.



You can practice all of the semzin and rushan practices actually.

Including the secret separation of samsara and nirvana? Oral instructions are needed for those, according to The Precious Vase.
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby Malcolm » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:29 am

Inge wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Thank you.



You can practice all of the semzin and rushan practices actually.

Including the secret separation of samsara and nirvana? Oral instructions are needed for those, according to The Precious Vase.


All, the inner and secret rushans are completely described in the PV.
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby T. Chokyi » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:26 am

frank123 wrote:
Ok,thanks for the clarification.So just to be clear i can practice the purification of 6 lokas from the precious vase?


According to DC: Precious Vase is a *Reserved item, which are materials intended for the Dzogchen Community. In order to purchase this item one must be a current member of the Dzogchen Community, and must have received Transmission from Chogyal Namkhai Norbu.

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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby frank123 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:50 am

Malcolm wrote:
frank123 wrote:Thank you.



You can practice all of the semzin and rushan practices actually.


Cheers :thumbsup:
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Re: Direct introduction and purification of the 6 lokas

Postby frank123 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:50 am

T. Chokyi wrote:
frank123 wrote:
Ok,thanks for the clarification.So just to be clear i can practice the purification of 6 lokas from the precious vase?


According to DC: Precious Vase is a *Reserved item, which are materials intended for the Dzogchen Community. In order to purchase this item one must be a current member of the Dzogchen Community, and must have received Transmission from Chogyal Namkhai Norbu.

:smile:


Yes i am aware of this.
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