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Ti-ti wrote:I agree Tom. I normally have about 1 lucid dream a week and dream recall of about 3 dreams a night. I've been doing the night practices of both Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche and ChNN for some time (eg. Multiplying dream elements, changing them to see their lack of reality, etc)... I've had some really luminous non-dual, clear light dream experiences too that were amazing... Just wanted to add a new practice to my arsenal of night time tools!
Ti-ti wrote:For any Dream Yoga practitioners in here... wondering if anyone has had any experience practicing Guru Yoga in the dream state?
I had a non-lucid dream a little over a month ago that was very similar to one of the Vajrasattva purification visualization methods (which strangely enough, I had never practiced in waking life before and only came upon afterwards). Since then, I've been trying to induce a Guru Yoga session lucidly with no luck.
It occurs to me guru yoga is perfect for practicing in the dream state, where you don't have to work to visualize the Buddhas or their mandalas.
I've been doing the standard dream yoga induction visualizations and trying to fall asleep on the mantra of a specific Buddha (eg. Vajrasattva, Green Tara) or the image of my own teacher, but no success yet (I'm in a lucid dreaming dry spell this month for some reason).
Anyway! Would love to hear your techniques for practicing guru yoga in the dream state
Ti-ti wrote:@Tom, my dreams of clear light always happen in a similar way...
Soap-Bubble wrote:And then you go on to describe what is not a clear light dream, but what sounds to be an ordinary lucid dream experience. Please re-read the books you were reading to clarify for yourself what dreams of clear light actually are. There are ordinary dreams, lucid dreams, dreams of clarity, and clear light, all are different.
Soap-Bubble wrote:Even the title of the thread is misconstrued, guru yoga is not a lucid dream practice.
I recognize that you're trying to be helpful, but you could do so simply by asking more questions that clarify the original poster's intent, rather than assuming they've got it all wrong. That's what a helpful teacher would do and we should always be trying to model our helpful and wise teachers more.
Soap-Bubble wrote:Also your words don't seem to be words of a serious practitioner. I mean, who comes into the forum and asks random people for more "techniques"?
Vasana wrote:From my own personal experience, regularly asking/praying for guidance before you go to sleep has been of immense benefit to my dream yoga practice (which as you say, is really just a continuation of daily practice and shouldn't be seen as different)
It has also been useful for me, requesting and inviting embodiments and emanations of beings who embody supreme wisdom-compassion/Bodhichiitta that are able to guide and teach you in any way ,for the benefit of all beings. There are countless beings who are able to abide and travel between the various Bardos,or astral plane (depending on which language we prefer) and many of them have the ability/siddhi to know what we are dreaming about and many of them can manifest occurrences and enhance certain aspects of our mind's which can manifest situations within the dream. So long as our intention and motivation is clear, and the wording we use for our guidance-request is correctly spoken, it doesn't take too long (although circumstances vary) until you can begin receiving direct mind to mind guidance, although there can sometimes be connectivity and receptivity problems.
Sherlock wrote:The real point of Guru Yoga is to be in the same state as the guru i.e. Rigpa. So there is not any difference.