Guty wrote:And had he really demonstrated the act of power such as legendary mahasiddhas allegedly did, I would definitely like to hear this person's explanations on the nature of reality and do the background check on his credibility and perhaps exclude all possibilities that this person is not a village escamoteur.
dmr82 wrote:You think these are ordinary members of society and you can communicate with them on a rational level? Nothing could be further from the truth. They appear and disappear as they wish. As for you wanting to hear accurate explanations on the nature of reality you can get that from any one of the lamas holding authentic transmissions. But if you want magic, work for it. There's no other way.
Yes, and so does Santa Claus and Mary Poppins. These stories are transfered from dozens of generations of which each one adds something on the story so eventually, you are left with nothing verifiable, except the pure core of the liberating teaching itself - even that is often left badly damaged, full of mistranslations and so on. Religious folks are the worst from the worst in reinterpreting the original sources of information. You will see, if you will ever care to investigate, that the historical backgrounds of many religious events is unverifiable and often in favor of the skeptical premise, that there never was this and that person, never happened this and that miraculous even, or that some place as told by ancients, never existend historically. You are left to manage these discrepancies on your own so you have to rely up on what's within the reach of your own perception; taking anything for granted unless you as an organic being have no good reason or supporting facts at hand for it, is simply speaking hipocritical or just naive, although maybe religiously correct. With this type of credulity you are left in danger to falling prey to whichever shameless self-important crook that you will encounter on your path. I am telling you, you as a practitioner of the highest vehicle you need to reconsider and distinguish fairytales from factual information; the liberating instructions are completely independent from any form of assumptions or need of a mythical belief structure, that often leads one into utter confusion and errors in discrimination between realities of its kind and illusions. And - even if you ever witnessed a kind of event that the most people affected by religious paradigm would consider miraclous - how would you be able to tell the difference from something that you would see under hypnotic suggestion of let's say type of what Derren Brown does with his experimental subjects? And then, what is more probable - that miracles happened all the time in the oriental past, but not today; OR that many of these accounts originate from people, who are more credulous than an everage well founded man equipped with common sense and average intelligence, who knows the ways around human willingness to believe in irrational and glorious deeds of superhumans? Please, review for yourself, what everything is possible under hypnosis, a simple bloody stupid hypnosis.. Do you honestly believe that in ancient times there were no hypnotists and they only appeared from thin air in the 20th century? Why would you need to believe so? I am not trying to tell you that Tilopa did not eat the fish and then reanimated it and threw back into the river, I am telling you, that is the witness testimony you know NOTHING about.