how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

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how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:43 pm

how to discover a the cause of a problem one is suffering from continuously? are there any methods, can you discover it by logic or how do you go on trying to understand the real reason why one is suffering a certain karma , mostly mental but closely linked to the physical.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby dakini_boi » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:25 am

I think you would need a high level of realization to know for sure. Luckily, it is not necessary to know the cause specifically in order to purify it.
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby Sönam » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:42 am

dakini_boi wrote:I think you would need a high level of realization to know for sure. Luckily, it is not necessary to know the cause specifically in order to purify it.


True ... but simple intuition can help sometime, also the bouddha (inside) knows the answer.

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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby Konchog1 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:54 am

Like causes like. Murder shortens life etc.

You may wish to read through Wheel of Sharp Weapons and Lam Rim texts that discuss karma.
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:47 am

ive read that text. it is quite helpful but doesnt answer the problem directly.

generally tibetan buddhism doesnt talk about or have any reflections or teaching about fear.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby heart » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:08 am

KonchokZoepa wrote:i
generally tibetan buddhism doesnt talk about or have any reflections or teaching about fear.


How about Chod? Certainly is about overcoming fear.

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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:16 pm

chod is too ritualistic for me, ive done it once, it was complicated and elaborate and i dont find the benefit, it doesnt go to the root of the problem at least not if you dont want to spend quite a big amount of time doing it.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby heart » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:24 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:chod is too ritualistic for me, ive done it once, it was complicated and elaborate and i dont find the benefit, it doesnt go to the root of the problem at least not if you dont want to spend quite a big amount of time doing it.


Namkhai Norbu has a very short and fantastic chod practice and even shorter chod can be found in the Longchen Nyingtik ngondro and the Chokling Tersar that is just a few lines long. Everything in vajrayana takes a lot of time, nothing can be mastered in a few hours, days or weeks.

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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:28 pm

hmm, the chod i participated was like 70 pages. with bells and drums, , just a confusing ritual with no benefit. i guess you would have to do it at least 100 times to get used to it and come familiar with it . anyway can you send a link to these chod's so i could check them out.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby Paul » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:57 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:hmm, the chod i participated was like 70 pages. with bells and drums, , just a confusing ritual with no benefit. i guess you would have to do it at least 100 times to get used to it and come familiar with it . anyway can you send a link to these chod's so i could check them out.

The short version of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche's Chod is just over seven pages.
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby heart » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:16 pm

Paul wrote:
KonchokZoepa wrote:hmm, the chod i participated was like 70 pages. with bells and drums, , just a confusing ritual with no benefit. i guess you would have to do it at least 100 times to get used to it and come familiar with it . anyway can you send a link to these chod's so i could check them out.

The short version of Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche's Chod is just over seven pages.


The other I mentioned are maybe 2 pages long. However, I think ChNNR is the easiest one to learn.

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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:19 pm

do you need to be a member of the dzogchen community, im not sure if i can join the community during this year because of my financial situation. if not this year ill do it right in january next year.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby WeiHan » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:28 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:chod is too ritualistic for me, ive done it once, it was complicated and elaborate and i dont find the benefit, it doesnt go to the root of the problem at least not if you dont want to spend quite a big amount of time doing it.


Hi. In the East where people are generally more rooted in the idea of karma, karmic debt etc...One generally, attributes more than 75% of our problems to karmic debt. Many people resolved their issues by making sur offering or offering of food to pretas and karmic debtors according to sutras tradition. karmic debtors manifest as obstructions and issues in one's life be it sickness that doctors can't find a cause, unexplanable fear, psychological issues, troublesome human relationships etc... You may try offering sur if you are keen. It is simple and takes short time.
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:57 pm

one time i was starting to do a sur offering but i think a ghost or a spirit came and haunted me and i got very afraid and paranoid so i couldnt do it. and also now im currently not living home where i used so im not allowed incense and i guess that same applies to sur. when i get a stable place for my altar i will maybe start doing sur again since you need to do it on a daily bases.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby Nosta » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:14 pm

Saying the name of Buddha with concentration will make ghosts and spirits not attacking. Also, you can play on a DVD the Surangama Mantra (or maybe the sutra...I am confused now); I read once here in the forum that the Surangama mantra/sutra will keep bad spirits away.
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby mahabuddha » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:04 am

Remember the story of the "Poison Arrow in the Eye"? One will never know the causes unless one is realized. There are innumerable causes and conditions that lead to this point in life. Instead of trying to find the conventional causes that have led us to this point in life...we can look at the ultimate, ignorance, and apply the Dharma now.
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby WeiHan » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:12 am

KonchokZoepa wrote:one time i was starting to do a sur offering but i think a ghost or a spirit came and haunted me and i got very afraid and paranoid so i couldnt do it. and also now im currently not living home where i used so im not allowed incense and i guess that same applies to sur. when i get a stable place for my altar i will maybe start doing sur again since you need to do it on a daily bases.


The Mahayana style of offering food to pretas does not require burning of incense. You need some rice or oat meal with milk (or without), with honey is even better. Recite names of the 4 Buddhas, some mantras and that is all.

It is seldom that, ghosts or karmic debtors haunt and harm the person who give them compassion and placate their starvation. Occasionally, it happens. It means that the karmic debt is deep. What the person need to do is to kept continue the practice.

Generally,

1. people with few karmic debt, won't feel any effect.
2. Karmic debtors that one owe a shallower karmic debt will leave first.
3. Karmic debtor with whom one owe a deeper debt may take a while longer practice.
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby philji » Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:00 pm

I think tibetan Buddhism has a lot to say about fear. Most of my teachers have addressed this issue in talks about disturbing emotions. As for remedies, there are of course many, speak to your teacher about this if it is the most predominant emotion affecting you. In the meantime methods could include looking directly at it...where is it, what is it etc and another option since Chod has been mentioned is Tsultrim Allione's feeding the demons process. She has a oak of the same name.
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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby pemachophel » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:51 pm

Lama Acharya Dawa Choddak is an expert at mirror divinations (phra bab), and one of the common questions He answers is what is the karmic cause of this or that problem and what specifically can/should I do about it. Lama Dawa developed the siddhi to do mirror divinations under the direct guidance of H.H. Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche. The answers to questions asked via these mirror divinations come from (I believe) Dorje Yudronma. Lama Dawa can be reached for mirror divination consultations via http://www.saraswatibhawan.org. He will also be in Boulder, CO in early November where He will be doing mirror divination consultations. For more information on that, please see the Events section. During that time, He will also be conferring the empowerment of Chokyi Gocha's Red Saraswati, the specific sadhana by which Lama Dawa developed these siddhi.

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Re: how to know the cause of a certain causes effect in life

Postby KonchokZoepa » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:22 pm

and is it possible to get a consultation through the internet ?
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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