Any dzogchenpas ever feel the need to sell buddhist books?

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Re: Any dzogchenpas ever feel the need to sell buddhist book

Postby heart » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:56 am

Sönam wrote:
heart wrote:
Sönam wrote:
Hi magnus,

For Dzogchen you don't need books. :rolling:

S


So why don't you throw out your Longchenpa books? :smile:

/magnus


To found quotes when we discuss together ... otherwise you have difficulties to accept my sayings :jumping:

Sönam


But I don't accept them anyway, right? So why all this this effort and striving Serge? :smile:

/magnus
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Re: Any dzogchenpas ever feel the need to sell buddhist book

Postby JKhedrup » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:09 am

Just picked up "The Crystal and The Way of Light" from our dharma centre's a library. A book about Dzogchen - the writer is Chogyal Namkhai Norbu. I don't think ChNN is against books-even Buddhist books. I watched an interview with him in Hong Kong recently where he praised the Chinese people\s interest in and study of Buddhism.

In terms of your own personal spiritual journey, if you are honestly at a point where you think you are ready to leave those things behind for greater depth in your meditation practice, I am of course in no position to discourage you. It sounds like this journey has been well-thought out. My comments were generally pointing out that in spiritual life we have many "end-points" feeling that we have finally come to the end of our searching, and inquiry and are ready to just focus.

The thing is though, even those points in our spiritual life are still subject to the reality that we call impermanence. So the "final conclusion" might not be as final as one might think. As I mentioned before, just look at the various journeys of all the people on this forum.

These are admittedly words from a gradualist who knows nothing about Dzogchen, though, so take them with a grain of salt!

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Re: Any dzogchenpas ever feel the need to sell buddhist book

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:42 am

JKhedrup wrote:Just picked up "The Crystal and The Way of Light" from our dharma centre's a library.
What a great book! This was the one that sealed it for me regarding the study/practice of Tibetan Buddhism. My first contact was the Bardo Thodol, that really sparked my interest, but the "The Crystal and The Way of Light", well, that was it! Hooked!
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Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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Re: Any dzogchenpas ever feel the need to sell buddhist book

Postby JKhedrup » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:31 am

I am looking forward to it! It has been highly recommended. Dharma books can be expensive so I was so happy to find it in our centre's library.
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Re: Any dzogchenpas ever feel the need to sell buddhist book

Postby Sönam » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:56 am

JKhedrup wrote:Just picked up "The Crystal and The Way of Light" from our dharma centre's a library. A book about Dzogchen - the writer is Chogyal Namkhai Norbu. I don't think ChNN is against books-even Buddhist books. I watched an interview with him in Hong Kong recently where he praised the Chinese people\s interest in and study of Buddhism.

In terms of your own personal spiritual journey, if you are honestly at a point where you think you are ready to leave those things behind for greater depth in your meditation practice, I am of course in no position to discourage you. It sounds like this journey has been well-thought out. My comments were generally pointing out that in spiritual life we have many "end-points" feeling that we have finally come to the end of our searching, and inquiry and are ready to just focus.

The thing is though, even those points in our spiritual life are still subject to the reality that we call impermanence. So the "final conclusion" might not be as final as one might think. As I mentioned before, just look at the various journeys of all the people on this forum.

These are admittedly words from a gradualist who knows nothing about Dzogchen, though, so take them with a grain of salt!

mega metta,
k


After the joke, it is clear that ChNN is not against book. He always recommand it, saying that we can found many answers in books, because it's words of great masters.

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Re: Any dzogchenpas ever feel the need to sell buddhist book

Postby padma norbu » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:49 pm

Yeah, Namnkhai Norbu has never been anti-book. Would be pretty weird if he was given how many books he has authored and translated to preserve so that people could continue to read them.
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Re: Any dzogchenpas ever feel the need to sell buddhist book

Postby heart » Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:10 pm

All books that deal with the three inner tantras would be a mistake to get rid of, unless you had them around for 20 years and the translation is still not communicating with you.

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