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Thigle

Postby Snovid » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:29 pm

I am from Poland I use google translator I do not know English

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Re: Thigle

Postby Roland » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:58 pm

I wondered the same thing when I saw the two different tigles. I never asked anybody so I never received an answer. Maybe this topic fits better in the Dzogchen forum.
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Re: Thigle

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Re: Thigle

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Re: Thigle

Postby Stewart » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:25 am

Then again, somewhere there is agreement that the cover of the Thun book is correct for Guru Yoga! With white on the outside... I for one would love a definitive answer.
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Re: Thigle

Postby Virgo » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:04 am

This thead seems to be Dzogchen specific.

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Re: Thigle

Postby Stewart » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:36 pm

Oh yeah... Never noticed, just opened it from 'view active topics'
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Re: Thigle

Postby Dronma » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:48 pm

This discussion had taken place also in the past.
Please, look for references here:


The correct order of the colors for the Ati Guru Yoga is exactly like in this picture (blue, green, red, yellow white):

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Re: Thigle

Postby Stewart » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:17 pm

Yeah, that's what I thought Dronma.....

.... But then on the page after you linked to Malcolm seems to suggest the Thun book image is for aesthetic purposes, I may be wrong.... To be honest, I don't think it's a deal breaker, so I'm not going to worry about it too much.
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Re: Thigle

Postby Dronma » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:24 pm

"My view is as vast as the sky, but my actions are finer than flour"
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Re: Thigle

Postby Stewart » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:22 pm

Thanks Dronma.... I've emailed ChNN as it seems to resurface now and then... Obviously he's busy right now, so I'll just bide my time until he replies, and post his answer.

To be clear I asked about the precise order for Ati Guru Yoga. I'm actually in the process of commissioning an 'A in Thigle' calligraphy/painting from an artist friend of mine, so I'll follow ChNN's definitive advice.
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Re: Thigle

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Re: Thigle

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"My view is as vast as the sky, but my actions are finer than flour"
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Re: Thigle

Postby Stewart » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:49 am

Yes, no problem... I will post Rinpoche’s response.


It may take some time for the painting to be ready... My friend is an established, in demand artist. However he's definitely agreed to do it, I've ran over the basic layout with him, White A in a five coloured Thigle.... 12x12 inch canvas... Not decided whether to frame it or mount on brocade yet... I'll decide when it's finished.
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Re: Thigle

Postby Snovid » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:53 am

Ok
And when I do guruyoga,I become 'A'
then visualize the 'A' as in the picture?
Or vice versa,like person who staring at me (as I,when I was looking at the picture)
and see what I see when I look at the picture?

It is a mirror reflection?
The right side of the 'A' on picture is my left side?
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Re: Thigle

Postby Sönam » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:35 pm

By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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Re: Thigle

Postby Dronma » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:51 pm

Snowid, you are the A.
There is no separation in between you and something outside or in front of you.
Rinpoche explains all these often as part of the transmission.
Moreover, the instructions of the transmission cannot be discussed in a public forum. Please keep this in mind when you post questions here. :namaste:
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Re: Thigle

Postby Snovid » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:03 pm

I am from Poland I use google translator I do not know English

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Re: Thigle

Postby Dronma » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:16 pm

"My view is as vast as the sky, but my actions are finer than flour"
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Re: Thigle

Postby muni » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:47 am

Not sure I understand but maybe far away there is a light shining by the grace of all posts. To say it with a handful of vocabulary: you must be the clear space itself in order to see all are so and guide my suffering mistaken...ness.

Then the ocean guides the 'ugly-beautiful fishes' minds' which are not different from own mind. We(I) people-appearance focus in misperception on a maha appearance-master, the leader and we the great ones and others waahaa.... We grasp the solid finger of our habitual perception of a master. In the light of devotion the appearance is not necessary there, this bright devotion is not other than boundless love for all in maha peace. This is what "a Master" is pointing to, in my simple understanding. So apologize.

At least I can say it nicely. And what all my talk has to do with the tread about the thigle?

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